On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 2:17:53 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
Le sam. 28 déc. 2024, 08:47, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 12:27:27 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 12:10:14 AM UTC-7 Russell Standish wrote: On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:56:06PM -0800, Alan Grayson wrote:> > On Friday, December 27, 2024 at 11:07:34 PM UTC-7 Russell Standish wrote:> > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 06:14:52PM -0800, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > From your pov, does the MWI imply new universes are created at every zig > or zag of an ant or a common house fly, or a motorist at a T -intersection? Yes > or No? AG > > > > Yes. Or differentiates. Its the same thing, actually. To those who see > a distinction, take your pick. > > > But since you have no clue what an entire universe actually IS, don't you think > you're speculating way beyond your pay grade? AG No. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders [email protected] http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe those ants and flying insects have more consciousness than you are willing to admit, so you don't need a human observing them to create new universes. Equally important is the fact that your universes don't interact so you don't have a verifiable scientific theory. Does any of this matter to you? Of course not, since this is another sign of being a cultist. AG All you have are smoke and mirrors. On second thought, maybe just smoke. AG Says the guy who found a fatal flow in SR and cannot comprehend simultaneity in spacelike separated scenario... the joke is very good. If you had brains, you'd be dangerous. Do you know how the SR problem is stated, I mean really know? It's like this; you have a car and a *garage, with the car longer than the garage. Can you use SR to make the car fit in the garage? Well, of course. All that's required is to speed the car to a velocity which, from the frame of the car, contracts the garage sufficiently to get it to fit. Problem solved, or so it appears. The various self appointed experts and gurus have an allegedly better solution, but ostensibly somewhat more complicated. Instead of considering length contraction of the garage, they apply the disagreement about simultaneity to show the car won't fit from the pov of the car frame, but does fit from the pov of the garage frame. So, as you should be able to comprehend, both methods give the SAME result! So where is the paradox? Truly, it resides in the more-or-less unstated assumption, that there exists an OBJECTIVE reality which precludes this result; that the car fits in the garage frame, but doesn't fit in the car frame. But AFAICT, nowhere is there a proof about the status of this alleged objective reality, whether it exists or not, although SR does allow different frames to make different measurements. Is this paradox a departure from this general result? I don't know, but I'm working on this issue. I recall that Brent denied its existence, but since I do not understand his plots, I remain unsure of his claim. AG* *Now a word about the MWI. If you've been paying attention, it's patently obvious that the theory is absolutely non-testable, for the simple* *reason that it assumes the Many Worlds do NOT interact. String theory has an ostensible similar problem, in that strings, if they exists, are too small to be detected. However, string theory does NOT in principle DENY that strings could be detectable, given really HUGE advances in technology. OTOH, the MWI does in fact have the no-detection-possible claim implicit as one of its principles, insofar as it claims its Many Worlds are non-interacting. AG* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c8b94e98-c2c2-499c-9083-c94c85f4fabfn%40googlegroups.com.
