On 1/4/2025 11:21 PM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:


Le dim. 5 janv. 2025, 01:18, Brent Meeker <[email protected]> a écrit :




    On 1/4/2025 1:11 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:


    On Saturday, January 4, 2025 at 1:46:26 PM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:

        On Sat, Jan 4, 2025 at 10:00 AM Alan Grayson
        <[email protected]> wrote:

            /> Moderation is inappropriate where Trump physics is
            endorsed. AG /


        *About a month ago Sean Carroll uploaded a very good video
        explaining the Many Worlds theory, but it's over an hour long
        so I know there's about as much chance of a dilettante such
        as yourself of actually watching it is there is of you
        reading a post of mine if it's longer than about 100 words. *
        *
        *
        *The Many Worlds of Quantum Mechanics | Dr. Sean Carroll
        <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTmxIUz21bo&t=8s> *
        *
        *
        *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis
        <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


    *Sure, I'll watch it. But I am still waiting for your reply to my
    question, posed around 10 times, why, based on S's equation,
    every thing that can happen, MUST HAPPEN. *
    Basically it boils down to two things.  One, they think the
    Schoredinger equation is sufficient to described measurement so
    long as the world can separate into independent copies for each
    eigenvalue of the measurement.  Exactly how this separation
    proceeds and how it is originated is sort of hand wavy, but
    they're sure it can be squared.   Second, they want everything to
    be deterministic.  So having all but one of the world's go away
    would require randomness per the Born rule.  At one time they
    thought the Born rule was already implict in the Schoredinger
    equation.  But since everything happens it's not so clear what it
    means that probabilities are equal to the squared amplitude.
    Probability of what?  Not probability of a value happening. 
    Probability of finding oneself in a particular world?  How does
    the probability amplitude of a quantum event get to apply some
    kind of "weight" to you or to a world?  One my say "That's just
    the way it is.  If it's probabilistic then it must follow Born's
    rule by Gleanson's theorem."  But then that's assuming it's
    probabilistic, not just Schroedinger's equation...in which case
    why not just bite the bullet and says it's the probability that a
    particular world exists.


Because to me in itself, only one world is absurd... as absurd that my life is finite and preceeded by an infinite time in the past and infinite time in the future...
You think it absurd that you didn't exist in the past and after a finite time you will no longer exist??  Most people, and physicists, think that's the case.

I know reality doesn't have to please me, but one world theory is as absurd as absurd can be imo. Only a theory about information where everything exists seems lesz absurd, yeah there is a gazillion things in it, so there is also in one world,  thing is with MW like things, there is an explanation for you to be, you're one of the possibilities... in one world, you're one possibilities realised whatever that means against all not realised whatever that means, the realised thing is the absurd.
It's just improbable, which is quite different from absurd.  Every hand of bridge I've been dealt was improbable, but I never considered one absurd.

Brent

Quentin

-- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Roy Betty, Rutger Hauer


    Brent

    *And please don't offer your BS that you've answered it
    repeatedly. Such a claim would be blatent lie. Finally, I know
    what you haven't offered the answer. It's really simple. You
    don't want to admit the Emperor has no clothes, as such an
    admission might trigger a coronary when you realize you've been
    preaching a lie these many years. AG *

        0o1



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