On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 7:26:48 AM UTC-7 Giulio Prisco wrote:

The democrats lost the elections in the U.S. because they are 
completely out of touch with the people and especially with the 
working class. They sound like that high school teacher we all had and 
disliked, who in hindsight was perhaps a nice person but was so 
completely out of touch with us that we all hated and mocked her/him 
all the time, and we didn't listen to her/him even when we should 
have. It is a communication problem. The sooner the democrats realize 
this, the better.


I'd be interested in some specifics concerning how the d's abandoned the
working class. I recall that Harris endorsed the Child Tax Credit which 
would
have had major impact on working America, and to protect SS, Medicare, 
Medicaid,and ObamaCare. In the face of Republican opposition to these
polices -- whether they admit it or not -- I don't see that the d's 
abandoned the
working class. AG
 

On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 2:18 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: 
> 
> I wrote it was PART of the reason the D's lost. Another was the 
Afghanistan withdrawal. Harris never strongly made the point that it was 
Trump who negotiated the withdrawal date while keeping the Afghan 
government out of the negotiations. In an interview she said she couldn't 
think of anything the Biden administration could have done different. How 
about trying to delay the withdrawal for maybe 6 months, not only to 
withdraw billions of dollars of our military equipment, but to ensure the 
withdrawal of Aghans who helped us for the 20 years we were there, who 
would likely be tracked down by the Taliban and murdered? And they handled 
the border issue miserably. Biden said he needed congressional action to 
restrain the flow of illegal entries, but then restrained them with any 
agreement with Congress. AG 
> 
> On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 6:05:42 AM UTC-7 Alan Grayson wrote: 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, January 15, 2025 at 4:46:28 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote: 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2025 at 5:06 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> 
wrote: 
>> 
>> 
https://www.newser.com/story/362511/house-passes-bill-on-trans-women-girls-in-sports.html?utm_source=uol&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss_top
 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Russia is engaged in a brutal war of conquest in Ukraine, tens of 
thousands of missiles armed with thermonuclear warheads can be launched 
with the push of a button, the Earth is hotter than it's been in thousands 
of years and it's getting hotter, bird flu is waiting in the wings, and 
above all computers are almost certainly going to become much more 
intelligent than human beings sometime in the next four years and pose the 
most significant danger to the continuation of the human race since the end 
of the last ice age. If what you say is true, if the reason Democrats lost 
the election is because of worries over transsexual men competing in 
women's sports, then 49.8% of American voters are fucking morons. 
>> 
>> John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis 
>> 
>> 
>> I think now I know the meaning of "woke". American voters may be morons, 
but the democrats are obtuse to the perversion of transgender men competing 
in women's sports. They can't seem to grasp that castrating oneself doesn't 
change the body type. Is this STUPID, or STUPID? No other choice IMO. AG

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