I wonder how sure we are that there's no malicious code in Deepseek?
Brent
On 1/28/2025 12:21 PM, John Clark wrote:
*I own some Nvidia stock and yesterday it dropped 17 percent, I also
own TSMC and ASML stock and they also dropped by a lot, but I am not
worried because the reason for the drop was the Chinese company
released an Open Source small AI that was nevertheless as good as the
best much larger western models, and they made it using a new method
that only needed about 5% as much computing power to train as western
models do; even better they also released a 22 page article
explaining exactly how they did it:*
*DeepSeek-R1: Incentivizing Reasoning Capability in LLMs via
Reinforcement Learning* <https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.12948>
*Hi tech billionaire Marc Andreessendescribed making this knowledge
available by the Chinese as a "/Profound gift to the world/**", and I
think he's right. The semiconductor stocks dropped dramatically
yesterday because people figured that now that we know how to get more
IQ points with fewer computer chips, people will be buying fewer
computer chips. But they have forgotten The Jevons Effect
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jevons_paradox> , as the cost of a
resource drops the demand for it increases, and we will never have
too much intelligence therefore we will never have too much computing
capacity. *
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*And I don't think we should be looking at this as a victory of China
over the USA but rather as a victory of Open Source AI programs over
proprietary AI models. I also think that due to recent developments
Ray Kurzweil is going to need to radically change his prediction that
the singularity won't happen till 2045; I think he will need to chop
off at least 10 years off that estimate, probably more. Let's hope
thatEliezer Yudkowskyis wrong about what will happen during the
Singularity because he can't be very happy today. *
*DeepSeek R1 Shocked The World*
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXRpbxifq8>
*John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
lez
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