AG, your predictable routine of dodging, misrepresenting, and then dramatically announcing your exit is getting old. Let's wrap this up quickly.
1. QM and probabilities You’re still missing the point. Yes, probabilities in QM have realized outcomes—but only within a framework where multiple possibilities exist and play a causal role in the system. In a single-history universe, unrealized possibilities have zero causal influence. If an event never happens, its probability is irrelevant. You keep bringing up examples where probabilities do manifest, which is completely beside the point. 2. "Now I will be gone" We’ve heard this one before. You claim to disengage, only to return like a broken record. If my “distortions” aren’t your problem, stop responding. But we both know you won’t. 3. White Light Experience & Tao You weren’t "just curious"—you threw it in as a classic AG derailment tactic. When the discussion gets too challenging, you pivot to vague mysticism. If you want to discuss subjective experiences, go for it, but don’t pretend it’s separate from your pattern of avoiding real debate. Now, let’s see how long it takes before you "return" with yet another recycled complaint. Le dim. 2 févr. 2025, 21:31, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 1:42:09 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, your deflections are as transparent as ever. Let’s cut through the > nonsense. > > 1. QM and randomness: > You’re conflating different ideas. Quantum mechanics describes > probabilistic outcomes within a framework where events still have causal > structures. But in a single-history universe, probabilities without > realized events are meaningless. > > > Most probabliities do have realized outcomes. Take a lot at any slit > diffraction pattern. AG > > You keep dodging the point: if something never happens, assigning it a > probability is pointless. > > > But most do. And some are so infrequent that we'd have to wait the > lifetime of the universe to see them. AG > > > his has nothing to do with QM’s randomness and everything to do with your > inability to separate mathematical abstraction from physical reality. > > 2. "I try to avoid respondinong to your posts" > Oh really? Your post history suggests otherwise. If you truly found my > responses annoying, you’d stop engaging. Instead, you return like > clockwork, complaining about “mind-reading” while making passive-aggressive > psychoanalysis attempts of your own. > > > I skipped a few of your recent posts. Now I will gone. Your persistent > distortions are not my problem. AG > > > 3. White Light Experience and Tao: > This is a hard pivot from the discussion—classic AG move. If you want to > talk about subjective experiences, that’s fine, but don’t pretend it > validates your take on physics. And if you're using "Tao" as a shield > against criticism, that’s just another distraction. > > > You continue with your amateur psychoanalysis, creating self-serving spin > where it doesn't exist. I was just curious, so I asked the question. > Nothing to do about distractions. AG > > > > > So what’s next? Another round of dodging, or will you actually address the > argument? > > > > Le dim. 2 févr. 2025, 20:01, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 12:43:17 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, your response is as predictable as it is empty. Let’s address it point > by point: > > 1. Clark's equation and "everything that can happen, must happen": > This is a strawman. I never claimed that Clark’s equation implies > "everything that can happen, must happen." My argument is about the > absurdity of invoking probabilities in a single-history universe. If > something never happens, its probability is effectively zero. Possibilities > that lack causal influence on the single history are meaningless in this > framework. > > > *I sse. So they lack causal influence because you say so? QM asserts > inherent randomness, which means no causality. I can't say I agree with > this pov, but you seem oblivious to it. AG * > > > > 2. "Why do you bother reading my posts?": > The same could be asked of you. You’re the one who insists on responding > with snark and misdirection, all while complaining about others engaging > with you. If you can’t handle criticism, perhaps stop inviting it with your > constant, baseless objections. > > > *I do try to avoid responding to your posts. Haven't you noticed? I find > your mind-reading attempts annoying and misguided. AG * > > > > 3. "You alone are the cause of what you complain about": > Classic projection. Your refusal to engage honestly, coupled with your > endless backpedaling and trolling, is the source of these issues. If you’re > tired of people pointing out your contradictions, maybe stop creating them. > > > *More mind-reading. Can't waste time responding to your juvenile attempts > at being a psychologist. I'm curious though. Did you read about my White > Light Experience with any understanding, or are you one of fools who laugh > at the Tao? AG * > > > Your attempt to position yourself as some misunderstood intellectual is > laughable. Engage with the ideas presented or don’t, but spare us the > theatrics. You’re not Cassius, and this isn’t a Shakespearean tragedy—it’s > just you wasting everyone’s time. > > > > Le dim. 2 févr. 2025, 19:31, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 12:12:23 PM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > AG, your attempt at a Shakespearean flourish doesn’t mask the emptiness of > your claim. You say I’ve added nothing of substance, yet I’ve engaged in > discussions about the absurdity of a single-history universe. If an event > never happens in a single-history universe, its true probability is > effectively zero. Invoking "possibilities" that will never exist and have > no causal influence on this universe is meaningless and absurd. > > > Yes, you posted what you claim, but it had no substance. You failed to > address Clark's error that S's equation implies everything that can happen, > MUST happen. This is nowhere in sight of what the equation implies, so > clearly you can't see beyond your nose, and maybe not that far. AG > > > Meanwhile, your contributions have amounted to circular arguments, > misinterpretations of relativity, and endless ad hominem attacks. The > fault, dear AG, lies not in others but in your inability to engage honestly > with the ideas presented. > > > If you so vehemently dislike my posts, why do you bother reading them? I > don't compel you to do so, and I don't prevent you from posting. So I > suggest that you cease causing problems for yourself, and be aware, as > Cassius says, you alone are the cause of what you complain about. AG > > > > > Le dim. 2 févr. 2025, 17:34, Alan Grayson <[email protected]> a écrit : > > On Sunday, February 2, 2025 at 8:35:07 AM UTC-7 Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > Jesse, there is only three possibilities, either AG is senile or a troll > or both. Now that this list is deader than dead thanks to him and cosmin, > please consider to let it die in the everything, it's a sad sad time, but > this goes nowhere. > > Thanks > > > There's a 4th possibility; that you have nothing of value to contribute to > the MB. I am not preventing you from posting an interesting observation or > question for members to ponder. The fact is YOU have nothing of substance > to add to this list. It was in Shakespeare's *Julius Caesar* that Cassius > opines to Brutus; "the fault dear Brutus is not in the stars, but > ourselves." 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