On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 11:41:45 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

On Friday, March 14, 2025 at 11:03:37 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:

Except he didn't show any such thing and he generally did regard it as a 
force, although he saw merit in Minkowski's geometric interpretation.

Brent


Poor choice of a word on my part; he didn't "show" gravity wasn't a force; 
rather he concluded it from a thought experient of man in free fall. You 
can conclude this from his direct quote, which I recently read. AG 


*Here is the quote I referred to above:*

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle*

*"Soon after completing work on his theory of gravity (known as general 
relativity <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity>)[6] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle#cite_note-6>: 111  and 
then also in later years, Einstein recalled the importance of the 
equivalence principle to his work:*

*The breakthrough came suddenly one day. I was sitting on a chair in my 
patent office in Bern. Suddenly a thought struck me: If a man falls freely, 
he would not feel his weight. I was taken aback. This simple thought 
experiment made a deep impression on me. This led me to the theory of 
gravity.*
*— **Einstein, 1922*[7] 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle#cite_note-7>*  "*


*CMIIAW, but Wiki incorrectly says this is the EP. Doesn't Einstein's 
statement above just show how he concluded gravity isn't a force, not that 
gravity is equivalent to acceleration, and not that all bodies fall at the 
same rate in gravitational fields (the WEP)? AG *



On 3/14/2025 2:59 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:

Maybe the EP just showed Einstein that graity is not a force, so it must be 
modeled differently, possibly by geometry? AG

On Wednesday, March 12, 2025 at 3:37:55 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:

As precisely as possible, can anyone describe the function and value of the 
EP in the construction of GR? Alternatively, how are the field equations 
implied by the EP? TY, AG

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