On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 13:24 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > 
> > And it's *already* simple for the user to choose if they're using the
> > keyboard shortcuts or the menu; it's only the toolbar that really needs
> > attention, as you say.
> 
> Fine.  So what's the point of all this discussion then?  Just change the
> toolbar.

Because people are still proposing more complicated things (and things
which don't have a clear distinction between *private* and *public*
replies and which are more likely to lead to confusion IMHO).

And I'm trying *not* to just ignore people who are proposing things that
seem not to make much sense to me; I'm trying to work out what they
really need. For example...

> > And despite the fact that I personally think the toolbar is just perfect
> > -- it doesn't show this silly Reply-to-List option at all, because
> > nobody should be doing that -- I still went out of my way to implement
> > an option that lets you turn the 'Reply to All' button into a 'Reply in
> > Public' button which replies to the list by preference, purely for the
> > benefit of those who disagree with me.
> 
> But Reply-to-All is useful, I don't want it to become a Reply-in-Public.
> And the term Public is horrible - many of the lists I am on are private
> lists, the reply is most definitely not public and it will just confuse
> people.

Remember, we're *only* talking about the toolbar button. You'll always
have the option of hitting Ctrl-Shift-R or using 'Reply to All' from the
menu.

So are you *really* saying that you need *both* 'all' and 'list' reply
buttons to be in the toolbar, because even thought your normal
preference it to reply-to-list on list messages, you might *sometimes*
want to reply-to-all on a list message instead? And you really can't use
the menu or the keyboard for that rare occasion?

I agree that 'Reply in Public' isn't a brilliant name for a button which
tries to reply to the list, and falls back to replying to all. Do you
have a better suggestion? Given that:
 - we can't make it change according to the message we're looking at.
 - 'Reply to List' would be wrong sometimes.
 - 'Reply to All' would be wrong sometimes.
 - 'Reply to List or All' is clumsy too.

Perhaps 'Group Reply'?

-- 
dwmw2

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