On Fri, 2017-12-29 at 11:27 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> On Fri, 2017-12-29 at 06:46 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > FWIW usually there is a file ~/.xsession-errors that contains the
> > output
> > of all running GUI apps.
> 
> No there is not, in times of Wayland instead of X.
> And I'd doubt anyway that this would be any helpful.

There even necessarily is ~/.xsession-errors when running X, as long as
the user doesn't redirect the output or the user chose a display manager
doing this. That's why I've written "FWIW" and "usually", let alone that
I first explained how to run evolution from command line. However, while
 reading the mixture of output redirected to ~/.xsession-errors often
isn't that clear as running a GUI app from command line, it still could
be very helpful, if a culprit e.g. is easy to "grep" by terms such as
"error", "evolution", "lib", in addition with "| grep -v -i warning" to
eliminate all the waste, that isn't filtered when simply launching an
app from command line. Résumé: Mentioning ~/.xsession-errors makes very
well sense. There is a reason that this file usually is provided by
default installs of user-friendly distros, even if they migrated already
to Wayland while a lot of issues caused by Wayland still aren't solved
yet. AFAIK know for good reason they allow still to chose between a
Wayland and a X user session by the display manager's greater.


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