Uh, so you want to send real mail, but with forged headers with a fake
from address?

Just set the from address in your account/make up a new one, that goes
nowhere.  The net result will be the same, a mail that people wont be
able to reply to.

I can see that going down 'well' on public lists.


On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 22:07 -0500, Sudhakar Govindavajhala wrote:
> thanks Lonnie, Christopher, Simran and Not Zed  for replies.
> 
> Lonnie:
> >From my experience, human intervention will not slow the dy/dx of spam.
> > 
> > That being said I think it is impossible for a legitimate message to be
> > sent without a "FROM:" header as the SMTP server asks for it before the
> > DATA transaction begins.
> > 
> 
> I will have a from header, but finally I will just forge the header to
> have something else.
> 
> >Sudhakar, I have tried to offer you some ideas, but you seem to have
> all
> > the answers.  I wonder why you are even posting to a mailing list in the
> > first place.
> 
> Yes, I did some homework a bit before posting. But then, I wanted to take advantage 
> of more knowledgeable people there too. :-)
> 
> 
> Simran,  that filter idea was a good one. I did not now about filters
> earlier.  I think for it to work, I need to somehow send the mail to
> SMTP directly (by running an SMTP server)  from my script.  But then,
> evolution tries to send the mail too and I would not want to send the
> mail twice.  I need to think more about this to prevent evolution from
> sending the mail.
> 
> Not Zed,
> 
> 
> > You should just write a script to make and send the mail directly, not
> > use a client.
> > 
> Hmm, I want  to use evolution for its GUI.  Yes, sending the mail directly by
> using the filter is a good idea. But then I need to prevent evolution from actually 
> delivering the mail too.
> I would not want to send ppl two copies.
> > 
> > 
> > Just copy an existing message and change the from address when you send
> > it.  You also need to do stuff with the smtp protocol if you want to
> > more accurately study how spam is more likely sent.  I'm not sure why
> > you want to, there's so many examples of it out there!
> 
> Well, sometimes I send some mails to mailing lists and they actually end up being 
> archived 
> on the web. Thus my email address is exposed for spam harvesting. Thus I am thinking 
> that I should rewrite
> the from header also when I send the mails so that I avoid exposing my email address 
> to bots.
> 
> 
> So the problem now is how to prevent evolution from actually delivering
> the mail.  Ideas?
> 
> thanks all for the efforts!
> 
> Sudhakar.
> 
> On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 21:28, Not Zed wrote:
> > On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 11:21 -0500, Sudhakar Govindavajhala wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2004-03-28 at 02:34, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2004-03-27 at 23:43 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > Now, **each** time I send a mail I would like to be able to change the
> > > > > >From field accordingly.  Is there a way I can do it in evolution?
> > > > > Obviously doing this in settings is not an option. (It is a pain to do it.
> > > > > But for research, it is worth the pain.)
> > > > 
> > > > Tools->Accounts->New
> > > > 
> > > > Create an account with the email address you want, set the SMTP but
> > > > leave the incoming server info blank.  When you are composing an email,
> > > > use the From: drop-down to select the email address you want this
> > > > particular email to be from.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Nah.   that is not what I want.   I want to be able to use lets say 100
> > > different addresses. In the solution you proposed, I will have to use
> > > 100 different settings.  A pain. All I want is to be able to type my
> > > email address, the way you type a recipient address.
> > > 
> > 
> > You should just write a script to make and send the mail directly, not
> > use a client.
> > 
> > Just copy an existing message and change the from address when you send
> > it.  You also need to do stuff with the smtp protocol if you want to
> > more accurately study how spam is more likely sent.  I'm not sure why
> > you want to, there's so many examples of it out there!
> -- 
> Sudhakar Govindavajhala                   Department of Computer Science
> Graduate Student,                         Princeton University
> Ph : (c) +1 609 273 8407                  (o) +1 609 258 1763
>                                               +1 609 258 1798
>                http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~sudhakar
> 
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