Ahh, so it is an "implimentation" issue. Not necessarily a broken
implimentation.
I should mention that I never really blamed Ximian, Ximian is just much
more likely to fix a problem than Lotus. Can't wait to see Evolution on
the shelves at the local computer store.
Chris Tooley
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 15:14, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> We tried to get all the messages in 1 lump sum (the most efficient way
> of doing it since it saves quite a bit of network traffic) - you'll
> notice that we asked for 1:* which means "give us all the messages
> starting with 1 all the way to the last message that you've got" and it
> didn't, so we rightfully assumed that we weren't going to be able to
> fetch any messages at all from the server and so thus didn't try again.
> For all we knew, the problem could have been with any message - not
> necessarily the first message. So to keep trying over and over could
> have been a complete waste of time. How do we know that any of the
> messages would work? We don't.
>
> I claim this to be NOTXIMIAN.
>
> Jeff
>
> On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 15:52, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > I somewhat believe that it isn't Evo's fault. I noticed the 0 Recent
> > message, but that doesn't explain why one message will screw up the
> > entire downloading of the mail box. I don't know enough about IMAP to
> > know whether it's a spec problem or an implimentation problem but on
> > message marked as SEEN doesn't mean that every message after that should
> > be. Or failing the download of one message, the rest should be
> > checked. It's possible that this is Domino's fault. Anyway, I deleted
> > the first message in the inbox and tried again. This got me all the
> > messages after that one up until the next message from the same author.
> > I went through and deleted all messages from that author and all 12000
> > remaining messages came down.
> >
> > Chris Tooley
> >
> > On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 14:45, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > Here's your problem:
> > >
> > > sending : A00092 SELECT {5+}
> > > INBOX
> > > received: * 12101 EXISTS
> > > received: * 0 RECENT
> > > received: * OK [UNSEEN 1] Message 1 is first unseen
> > > received: * OK [UIDVALIDITY 1] UIDs valid
> > > received: * FLAGS (\Flagged \Seen \Answered \Deleted \Draft)
> > > received: * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Flagged \Seen \Answered \Deleted
> > > \Draft)] Permanent flags
> > > received: A00092 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
> > > sending : A00093 UID FETCH 1:* (FLAGS RFC822.SIZE BODY.PEEK[HEADER])
> > > received: A00093 NO FETCH Cannot convert Notes Rich Text message to MIME
> > > message.
> > >
> > > Whenever you try and SELECT the INBOX (there are 0 recent btw, there may
> > > be some unread messages, but unread don't necessarily mean recent in
> > > imap-speak), your imap server doesn't give them to us because apparently
> > > some of the messages contain Notes Rich Text formatted stuff or
> > > something?
> > >
> > > Anyways, it refuses to give them to us so it's not our fault.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 21:22, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > > > This is the output. I note that there is about 12000 messages but it
> > > > says that 0 are recent? They should all be recent.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 17:28, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > Can you export CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1 and then run evolution-mail in that
> > > > > terminal then wait 5 seconds and start evolution in a second terminal
> > > > > and send is the log?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 18:09, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > > > > > Well, it's a Domino based mail file. There were as I said 15000
> > > > > > messages in the "INBOX" which were truly in the inbox. When I went to
> > > > > > download them, it got somewhere around August 2000 (I started here in
> > > > > > July) and stopped. I deleted all 3000 of those messages and moved on.
> > > > > > However it still won't download the rest of the messages. I looked in my
> > > > > > web-mail login and Domino shows that those messages got deleted, and
> > > > > > that there are still the same number of messages in the folder as
> > > > > > Evolution says are in the folder when it starts up.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am asking it to filter my IMAP Inbox but that doesn't really make much
> > > > > > of a difference because the same filters are run by Domino before
> > > > > > Evolution hits the mail file. So, anything Evo is going to filter,
> > > > > > Domino already has.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris Tooley
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 16:55, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> > > > > > > There's no problems with large IMAP folders that I know of... I've got
> > > > > > > some pretty hefty sized imap folders and it works perfectly fine for me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you by any chance using Evolution to filter your IMAP Inbox folder?
> > > > > > > if so, then it might say "500 new messages" and then when you switch to
> > > > > > > it, it will filter them into other folders and then the new message
> > > > > > > count will change.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Fri, 2001-11-09 at 17:12, Chris Tooley wrote:
> > > > > > > > I know there was some talk about problems with large folders in IMAP
> > > > > > > > connections. Is there a way to clear out what Evolution thinks is in
> > > > > > > > the Folder and force it to check again? I had 15592 messages in my
> > > > > > > > INBOX and it only downloaded headers for 3523 of them. I deleted all
> > > > > > > > 3823 and now it says there are 12069 new messages but when I click on
> > > > > > > > the folder it checks the status and then reports 0 new messages and an
> > > > > > > > empty folder. Not exactly correct.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Chris Tooley
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