Which, of course, is the behavior I had gotten used to from Netscape. So, when moving to Evolution, upon seeing the "Expunge" menu option, I had (apparently mistakenly) assumed the same functionality. Apparently that's only true for IMAP... bummer... now to convince someone to install imapd...
Is this an often-requested feature? Or am I in an unusual situation?
I'm guessing that the recommended solution would be to install imapd...
-Ian
On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 10:45, David G. Simmons wrote:
>
> While this is all quite true (and one of the main reasons I use IMAP
> instead of POP3), Netscape has implemented this using what they call
> 'compacting' folders. If anyone has used the Netscape Messenger using
> POP3, they will notice (if they pay any attention whatsoever) that
> messages are not actually DELETED (even from the local store) until you
> issue a 'compact folders' command. You will not SEE them, but your local
> (or remote) message store will get HUGE unless you periodically compact
> the folder.
>
> Of course, this doesn't help solve anyone's problem, but ... :-)
>
> dg
>
> Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
>
> >Oh. You can't in Evolution, there was just a question about this
> >actually a few days ago. To sum up:
> >
> >There aren't any plans to implement it that i'm aware of. Mainly as
> >we'd need some mechanism to implement it without breaking through
> >abstraction layers. Its probably not that hard to do, but nobody's
> >given it enough thought. Any reasonable patches will be considered ...
> >
> >>POP was never really designed for leaving mail on the server at all,
> >>
> >let
> >
> >>alone keeping an index of all messages, and then comparing how long
> >>they've been in the cache or the timestamp in the header to determine
> >>
> >if
> >
> >>they should be deleted. Yes other mailers have pulled off this hack,
> >>but it's really just better to use IMAP if users plan to leave the
> >>
> >mail
> >
> >>on the server at all.
> >>
> >
> >This is so true. Its called Post _OFFICE_ Protocol for a reason. You
> >dont file and store your mail at your postoffice postbox (if you have
> >one), you just pick it up there.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 12:35, Ian Forde wrote:
> >
> >>The problem is that I've found that if I uncheck "Leave Mail on Server",
> >>it'll download all the mail from the server and remove it all from the
> >>server. Thus, the only place my mail store will be is on my laptop...
> >>This I've verified from the stream of DELE commands going to the server
> >>(from watching sniffer dumps).
> >>
> >>How do I get it to only remove messages on the server when they're
> >>removed locally, yet maintain the message store on the server?
> >>
> >> -I
> >>
> >> Tue, 2002-04-16 at 08:46, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
> >>
> >>>Ian,
> >>>
> >>>I'm not sure I understand. You have "leave-mail-on-server" checked,
> >>>right? That means that you don't want Evolution to delete mail from the
> >>>server. That is why it's not performing a DELE for the messages. If you
> >>>want it to DELE the messages, you have to turn off keep-mail-on-server .
> >>>
> >>>Jeff
> >>>
> >>>On Tue, 2002-04-16 at 00:24, Ian Forde wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>Hi all - I'm new to the list, though I've been using Evolution for well
> >>>>over a year now. I'm having a problem using Evolution with a POP
> >>>>account in that it won't delete any messages. Here's the setup:
> >>>>
> >>>>My machine: Linux Laptop (RH7.2,
>
>>>>>evolution1.0.3.99-various-snapshots-usually-the-latest-though-this-problem-has-persisted)
> >>>>
> >>>>I don't control the mailserver, and it's running Qpopper 4.0.3, with no
> >>>>APOP support. Thus, I port-forward over an ssh connection:
> >>>>
> >>>>ssh -2 -L 4510:mailhost:25 -L 4500:mailhost:110 me@mailhost
> >>>>
> >>>>So I point Evolution at that mailhost:4500 for receiving mail and
> >>>>mailhost:4510 for sending mail. I've turned on the "Leave messages on
> >>>>server" option, since unchecking that one sucks the mail off of the
> >>>>server and leaves me with no mail the when I'm done. (Sometimes I
> >>>>travel without my laptop and like to use pine.)
> >>>>
> >>>>So when I "empty trash" and "expunge" the messages leave my "Local
> >>>>Folders" but still stay on the server anyway. I've sniffed the
> >>>>connection and watched message downloads, but at no time has Evolution
> >>>>performed a "message delete" operation.
> >>>>
> >>>>Could the fact that evo sees this account as a "local folder" be
> >>>>relevant here? And just to be sure... Mozilla mail works fine in this
> >>>>regard, so it's not the server. (Evo is a better, nicer-looking email
> >>>>client, supports gpg/pgp, and doesn't die when my browser crashes, which
> >>>>is why I'm using it...)
> >>>>
> >>>>Any help here would be appreciated!
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks!
> >>>> -Ian
> >>>>--
> >>>> ________________________________________
> >>>> Ian Forde, RHCE, SCSA, SCNA, SCDME, CCSA
> >>>> CYTBeN, Inc.
> >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>>
> >>>
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> >> CYTBeN, Inc.
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