Chris:

First, let me say thanks for the great work you are doing in Evolution.

I realize you have other priorities.

One thing that Evo apprears to want, is to mimic outlook.... it does a
great job.... one of the most powerful features of outlook is the global
address book...

In our agency, MS Exchange is standard for right now... and LDAP look
ups work "so-so" with Evo....Mozilla has great LDAP support, but lacks
other features....

The two most important features for our agency (where I am pushing to
roll out EVO wide) is LDAP, and autocompletion of LDAP addresses in
composer by default went composing a message.

What do you think an ETA of these features being implemented will be?

They are also looking at SamsungContact - which looks nice, and includes
a server... but I am trying to hold them off so they can see Evo in
action.

thanks,
mike



On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 06:43, Chris Toshok wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-08-14 at 09:23, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> > ons, 2002-08-14 kl. 12:40 skrev Tong Eng Chiah:
> > 
> > >  i'm using it.
> > > works fine.
> > 
> > No it doesn't! Even if people do as you say.
> 
> It has always worked fine for me when doing normal port 389 non-TLS
> stuff...  Are you saying that isn't working for you?
> 
> > 1: There's no ldaps possibility (e.g. one can change the port, but not
> > the service/protocol and TLS certificate verification);
> 
> which version are you talking about?  version 1.1.x has had a UI for
> selecting TLS for some time now.  Are you saying that the UI isn't
> clear?
> 
> > 2: and there's no Address list possibility - as there is in disk-based
> > Evo "Contacts" - even given that you're using ldap objectClass
> > EvolutionPerson and evolutionPersonList on your ldap server, which only
> > source people know about anyway, because the binary rpm people - like me
> > - don't even *know* about the Evolution schema. Without being told by
> > people like Adam Williams.
> 
> The location of the schema file wasn't communicated that well even to
> the people that *did* use the source instead of binary snapshots.  The
> reason being it was a hack and even when I wrote it I knew most of it
> would end up being deprecated eventually (parts of it already are -- the
> calendar/freebusy fields).
> 
> Contact lists again will probably *not* use the format in the current
> evolutionPerson schema, and yes, there's a bug about the lack of them,
> and yes, it's slated for 1.2.
> 
> > > just need to key in the LDAP server hostname and a search base
> > > what problems u facing?
> > 
> > The above. I have Openldap 2.1.3/Berkeley 4.0 BDB running on my Compaq
> > Presario Evo notebook cum server and do TLS/ldaps for everything that
> > I'm able to. Ditto TLS pop3 and TLS SMTP. Evo falls far short. I know
> > it's being worked on, but nobody should think that 1.x is anywhere near
> > good, yet. Moreover, using your own ldap server as a source for names
> > for your message composer "to" contacts list needs special ldap indexing
> > on your server.
> 
> First off, to expect a large ldap server to perform well at searches
> *without* indexing is just silly, so there's no use saying that
> evolution alone requires it.  If your ldap server is just for your own
> contacts you probably don't need any additional indexing unless you're
> one of those odd people with 20k contacts.  I never added indices for my
> local server here until I started stress testing things and upped the
> number of entries to 100k, and things weren't adversely affected by
> their absence.
> 
> And you're right - evolution is still being worked on.  The initial
> LDAPS/TLS code went in a long time ago, and I was pulled away to work on
> other things and couldn't get back to finishing it up.  But it does no
> one any good to act like it's the end of the world and say it's nowhere
> near good yet when I just fixed the TLS problems and committed the fixes
> tonight.  Relax :)
> 
> Chris
> 
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