Verbs is a software implementation of the IBTA and iWarp verbs for Linux, although there may be some features that are a superset of the IBTA and iWarp specifications, and/or were implemented first in OFA and then submitted to IBTA for standardization.
SRP is an ANSI T10 standard. IPoIB is an IETF standard. There is no standard for RDS that I know of, but I think it was OFA that "asked" Oracle to submit it. The real question is does OFA want to limit itself to accepting only code that is part of some standard ? As for kernel.org, they typically do not follow such a rule, they do what they think is right for Linux, sometimes the code is associated with a standard, sometimes it is not. I think that the ofa-general list pretty much has been following the kernel.org model. I think that in any case, OFA needs to have a consistent policy, and if we allow something that is not a standard for one member, it should be allowed for all members. my 2 cents. woody -----Original Message----- From: general-boun...@lists.openfabrics.org [mailto:general-boun...@lists.openfabrics.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:24 AM To: Ryan, Jim Cc: OpenFabrics EWG; OpenFabrics General Subject: Re: [ofa-general] RE: [ewg] [PATCH 0/9] RDMAoE - RDMA over Ethernet-- some procedural questions Understood -- and I'm not debating these questions in light of RDMAoE/ IBoE/whateveroE. I'm asking how tightly these questions have been applied to all the other stacks in OFED. For example, RDS, SRP, and verbs itself. Are any of these published/standardized APIs other than the fact that they're in OFED? What does it mean to have a standard body "associated" with a proposal? Does "associated" mean that the proposal/API is a published standard in that standards body? Or some weaker definition? On Jun 16, 2009, at 12:37 PM, Ryan, Jim wrote: > Jeff, thanks, I'll try to keep this as brief as possible and offer > more offline if anyone wants it: > - The bylaws state the requirement for a standards body to be > associated with a proposal. It contains some examples, including the > IETF and the IBTA (and others) > > - I think it's fair to say there's some ambiguity around what a > "proposal" would consist of. That's part of the discussion I've > tried to get started in the past, unsuccessfully > > - The bylaws also say the Board can ID other such bodies as the need > is perceived > > - My best understanding is the IBTA is developing a spec that > addresses this area. Work has started, but I don't have a timeline > for delivery. > > An obvious concern to me is having code submitted prior to a spec > being agreed > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: ewg-boun...@lists.openfabrics.org > [mailto:ewg-boun...@lists.openfabrics.org > ] On Behalf Of Jeff Squyres > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:25 AM > To: OpenFabrics EWG; OpenFabrics General > Subject: Re: [ofa-general] RE: [ewg] [PATCH 0/9] RDMAoE - RDMA over > Ethernet -- some procedural questions > > On Jun 15, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Ryan, Jim wrote: > > > - There was no standards body associated with the proposal. > > > > > Clarification question on this -- what exactly does this statement > mean? I ask because if you take that statement to the extreme, many > things in OFED may not qualify. > > For example, the uDAPL software API is standardized, so I assume it's > fine. The iWARP and IB hardware layers are standardized, but are > there standardized software APIs? Specifically: the verbs software > stack is not standardized by any standards body, is it? (what is the > exact definition of "standards body", anyway -- does consensus of OFED > members count?) > > These may be naive questions (I don't follow these APIs at all), but > is the RDS API standardized? Is SRP? Are the various tools that are > shipped in OFED standardized? > > I'm sure we don't want to take all these things out of OFED, but some > clarification of the rules might be useful. > > -- > Jeff Squyres > Cisco Systems > > _______________________________________________ > ewg mailing list > ewg@lists.openfabrics.org > http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ewg > -- Jeff Squyres Cisco Systems _______________________________________________ general mailing list gene...@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/general To unsubscribe, please visit http://openib.org/mailman/listinfo/openib-general _______________________________________________ ewg mailing list ewg@lists.openfabrics.org http://lists.openfabrics.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ewg