That's my point. It forcibly breaks ESMTP, and not very cleanly either. I've done some protocol traces on it here (we use PIXes) and showed my WAN guy how bad it was tanking mail.
Roger -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:59 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > Perhaps, but the pix documentation clearly states that the > mailguard feature > will not work with ESMTP and only allows the SMTP commands defined in > RFC821. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:45 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > By definition, mailguard is designed to intercept and drop > all ESMTP verbs. > I find anything that's designed to interfere with a well > known and for all > intents and purposes, a trusted protocol, to be fundamentally broken. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP > Sr. Systems Administrator > Inovis Inc. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:33 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > > > The funny thing is that I've talked to guys that swear up and down > > that Mailguard was fixed after a certain ios version. I still say > > it's broke. > > > > > > Ben Winzenz > > Microsoft Exchange MVP > > Network Engineer > > Gardner & White > > Ph (317) 843-3418 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: > > Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:31 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > > Conversation: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Ben > > Winzenz > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:28 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;320027 is > > pertinent as well, perhaps... > > > > > > Ben Winzenz > > Microsoft Exchange MVP > > Network Engineer > > Gardner & White > > Ph (317) 843-3418 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, > > February 17, 2004 11:24 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) > > Conversation: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;275575 > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;295164 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:21 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > We actually just upgraded our Firewall to a PIX, yes. Can > you point > > me to this issue? Thanks. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > David, Andy > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:17 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > Got a pix in front of that server? > > Is the mailguard feature enabled? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 11:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > I am still trying to get to the bottom of this. The event log > > definitely says that the sender does not have permission to send to > > the > > recipient, but its only when PF stores are talking to each > other. I > > tried to telnet into port 25 of the recipient server and I > get this... > > It just sits there. > > > > 220 > > > **************************************************************0****0*0 > > ***** > > *****************200***0**2*****0*00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > David, Andy > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 5:02 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > Maybe crank up diag logging on the public folders. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:27 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Public Folder Store #5.7.1 NDR > > > > > > Weird issue. I am seeing NDRs that say our local Routing > Group cannot > > send Public Folder System Messages to another Routing Group (Using > > Routing Group Connectors). We can send email to it fine, > but we get > > NDRs for PF updates (see below). I have no restrictions > other than a > > 20MB message size limit on the connector. Thanks in advance. > > > > Public Folder Store (RemoteServer) on 2/16/2004 1:15 PM > > You do not have permission to send to this > recipient. 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