SCO is saying one thing in public ("Linux stole our System V code!"),
but quite another in it's lawsuit against IBM. The lawsuit says that
linux has lots of lines of code that were written by IBM (JFS,
Scatter/Gather IO, and RCU) but IBM was not free to release it because
it is a derivative work of System V unix and because of some contracts
SCO had with IBM concerning an aborted joint Intel based unix called
Monterrey.The derivative works argument works pretty good in the literary world for which it was intended. You can't, for example, write a book using the characters and settings from Harry Potter without working out a deal with Ms. Rawlings. In the software world, though, the derivative works argument pretty much falls flat. It would be akin to Microsoft claiming that they had rights to every Excel macro ever written. Pretty silly if you ask me. Even sillier considering that AT&T explicitly told unix licensees that licensees' code was NOT encumbered by the unix license. Still sillier yet, is that the JFS code that IBM contributed to linux was developed for OS/2, not AIX. Scatter/gather IO was a feature of IBM operating systems before unix was even born. RCU was implemented by SGI before IBM bought them. Slashdot.org has several stories on the SCO goings on. Groklaw has some good, rational analysis from a legal perspective. To quote the Motley Fool investment site: "SCO looks like one of the best short candidates I've seen in a while." http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2004/mft04030310.htm -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Putley Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 2:54 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways Thus far SCO have refused to show anyone what lines of code are at issue so I don't understand how you can make that judgement -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways Not to take this too far off topic, but the reality is SCO can show the chain of ownership for the intellectual property behind Unix. It's a valid suit, assuming that there are line by line similarities in the source code. The bigger issue with it is what constitutes copyright infringement in software development. That's the sticky question to answer. What percentage would have to be substantially the same (and what does *that* actually mean) for it to be stolen code? -------------------------------------------------------------- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 12:54 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > > To me it's like I'm coming out an claiming I own some of the code to > windows. You can pay me now before my claim is proven and if it ends > up that I'm wrong, then I promise I'll give your money back to you > (if there's any > money left after I become bankrupt) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Martin Blackstone > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:48 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > Apparently some folks think different. > http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5170310.html?tag=nefd_top > > That said, I have no opinion regarding it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Christopher Hummert > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:46 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > Why would you want to throw your money away on an invalid claim? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Martin Blackstone > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:42 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > Did you send your money to SCO yet? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul > Hutchings > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 9:37 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Messaging Gateways > > I'd certainly take a look at open source options. > > We're a small company and I've got a Suse Linux box in our DMZ with > Postfix and Spamassassin and every time i look at it (so to speak) it > bloody amazes > me what it does for what it cost. > > regards, > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Juancho Ciocon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 4:22 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Messaging Gateways > > > Hi, folks: > > We are a global company, running "native" E2k on W2k servers, WinXP > and Outlook 2002 on user machines. > > We are looking at replacing our current email gateway (which does > header rewrites, routing based on MX records, virus and attachment > scanning, > etc.) and I'm looking for some recommendations from this forum. > Preferably, we'd like the same type of functionality but with a slight > topology change: we'd like the new device/system in our DMZ. > > I look forward to your suggestions, comments or questions. > > Thank you in advance! > -Juancho > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t > ext_mode=&lang > =english > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia > Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. 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