While your information store is pretty small, use the opportunity to
practice restores.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike
Anderson
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 6:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 (mirroring and/or failover options)


Thanks both of you - those were both excellent answers!

Overall, wouldn't you say, that the most prohibitive part of Exchange
Restores, is Active Directory - and the fact that you simply can't "Plop" in
another server, to assume the old one's role?  (unless you Ghosted the
original one, so the Domain Controller wouldn't know the
difference)

Aren't Machine Names, SID's, etc. the biggest things keeping you from simply
copying the Mail Store from the old Server (assuming you have it mirrored
somewhere) to a new one that you have as a stand-by - and firing it up on
the network?  Also, if I heard right, don't SID's change from time to time?
If that is true, then a Ghost backup made a few weeks or months back, would
not restore a machine to it's true 100% operational state would it?  Could
somebody clarify that for me?

Unless I am totally off here - these seem to be the largest issues - and I
would love to be corrected and educated as to this whole process.

Presently, I back up our ENTIRE message store every night, using Veritas
Backup Exec.  It's a wonderful system - but I have to be honest with you
all, I've never attempted to recreate a disaster recovery scenario - in
which I took one of our actual backups, and performed a sample restore -
just to see if this whole thing works in real life.

I know - this probably isn't the smartest way to perform my Administrator
duties - and would like to get a better handle on if we are truly protected.
We go 14-days back with our backups - so we have 2 weeks to pick from - if
we wanted to pick any particular date...

Again, any additional comments would be massively appreciated.

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 2:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003 (mirroring and/or failover options)


Exchange 2003 introduces the concept of recovery storage groups. The utility
of recovery storage groups is IMNSHO somewhat limited and there are only a
few scenarios where I think the benefit is anything more than marginal.
Sometimes marginal is a calm port in a storm, but I haven't used it as a
solution of first resort in any of the DR scenarios I've worked on lately.
Still, it's an additional tool one should be aware of and put in their
toolbox.

You can also look at snapshot technologies and backups to disk as ways to
further reduce restore times. As databases grow, anything you can do to
speed the process of restoring a database can make a huge difference in the
RTO.

There are still a number of products which promise real-time replication of
Exchange data (generally at the byte level). I'm admittedly biased in my
experience in and around such solutions, so I'll just let others tout their
success stories with such products and keep my opinions to myself. <g> 

<vendor plug>
Our EMS solution allows for immediate failover (less than 2 minutes) for
some or all of your Exchange environment to an alternate messaging system in
the event of a server failure or other disaster. 
</vendor plug>

There's a strong push for more robust failover in Exchange and I know it was
top of mind for the Exchange team as they started working on the next
version. Since this next version will likely involve some major rewrites,
it's very possible a more robust solution may be on the horizon.

-- 
Chris Scharff
MessageOne

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:37 PM
Posted To: swynk
Conversation: Exchange 2003 (mirroring and/or failover options)
Subject: Exchange 2003 (mirroring and/or failover options)

Hello All,

I know this topic has been often discussed in the past, in hopes of finding
a way to either reduce downtime due to a catastrophe, or eliminate one
altogether - due to proper planning, the right hardware, etc.  As of that
time, there were still no real options, that would be totally
self-sustaining (in order to avoid the famous 2am phone call). There was
still a lot of legwork required, getting backups together, etc.

Now with Windows 2003 Server combined with Exchange 2003, are there NOW any
options available to people, that will provide real-time mirroring, or some
type of failover - in which the downtime would be practically eliminated (if
not radically reduced)?

I know some wonderful people on this list (and one in particular comes to
mind) have published whitepapers on how to prepare yourself for disaster
recovery, in which steps could be taken to get you back on track quite
quickly.

With all that said, what is available (either hardware, software or
both) on the market that can radically minimize the downtime of an Exchange
2003 Mail Server.  My top preference, would be to mirror the server, or at
least have a real-time copy of the mail store, so one could get back up and
running ASAP.

Thanks in advance for any information offered,

Mike


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