Huh? I don't believe anyone had claimed that Surf control is a firewall.  It
is, however, a great addition to ones corporate security AFTER the firewall.
I was making a comparison to changing security restrictions on my Pix vs
using Surf Control to affect the same restrictions. 

Say, has anyone taken a look at TrendMicro Interscan Web Security Suite
(http://www.trendmicro.com/en/products/gateway/iwss/evaluate/overview.htm)?
This product appears to do a whole lot of stuff that I wish Surf control
could do.  For example, they claim that Interscan can detect viruses, worms,
spyware, hijacking, and such.  These detections are currently not possible
with Surf control.

I may switch products (I'm still in my evaluation period with Surf control).

Any thoughts? (yeah, I know this is probably off-topic)

Shawn


-----Original Message-----
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 9:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: [SUSPECTED SPAM (Bay) - ] - RE: blocking internet - Bayesian Filter
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I do not think Surfcontrol is a "Firewall" 
Or I should say at least their URL product I run
It can either be stand alone..net sniffer type OR be put on Proxy-firewall
(ISA..etc)..

But I do not believe it is a "firewall" product like a PIX,
Checkpoint..etc...

This said it work pretty nicely of me as URL control and other etc...
And I like kicking my pix when I have too...which is like never it just
run's....

bill

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn
Connelly
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: blocking internet

It was an easy sale for me when I released that I no longer needed to spend
time connecting to the pix and typing cryptic commands to get it to do the
same thing that Surf Control can do with a few clicks of the mouse.

To think, I was once a true UNIX CLI nerd who hated any type of GUI
interface.  What killed that part of me was the loss of time to do anything
else but getting the job done as quickly as possible.  Sigh...

The GUI saved me and now I embrace it. :-)

Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Olson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 7:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: blocking internet  

We use it, works great. You can also set it up so to allow somone to access
the internet, for example 30 minutes per day. I like that option.
I still use a old fashion way as well, change the permissions on IE.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: blocking internet

Hello Tony,

Group members have suggested a variety of ways such as blocking directly at
the firewall and removing the default gateway information (at the DHCP
server).  These will definitely work; however, these methods don't allow you
much control and zero monitoring capability.

Another method you may want to consider is purchasing Internet
monitoring/blocking program like Surf Control
(http://www.surfcontrol.com/products/web/).  Surf Control will allow you to
selectively block some/all internet access based on client name, IP address,
etc.  This software offers many other benefits as well.  

It's worth looking at if you have about $2K in your budget.

Shawn

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 3:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: blocking internet


Does anyone know of a way to block internet usage? Like blocking them from
using the internet.

I had some problem with e-mail problem and had to call SSP for some help.
They had to set the DNS server forwarders ip address and now everyone have
access to the internet. Is there a way to restrict some computer from
accessing the internet.

Tony



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