I saw the demo yesterday and indeed it looked really nice. >From my point of view, if KVS and Ilumin merged, they would have an awesome product. Ilumin's Compliance and Discovery is so far the best I've seen but they're sort of lacking in the Mailbox Management and Public Folder Management part which KVS does very well.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip [MVP] Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2004 12:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender and Mail Examiner You can use EVPM to do a heck lot nice of stuff. -------------------------- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hurst, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 1:18 AM Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender and Mail Examiner > Tony, > > I thought you could use EVPM to set different setting for different > folders? > > Cheers > > Paul > > Standards are like toothbrushes, > everyone wants one but not yours > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hlabse, Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 August 2004 19:38 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > > > You may have to call KVS, but I am sure you can have only one > retention period per server for KVS. They may be a work around though. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carmila Fresco > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 12:41 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > We have 2 PF servers. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Hlabse, Tony > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 10:30 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > Do you have just one PF store/server? > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carmila Fresco > Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > Looks like we've hit big snag with the 3 solutions. All of them have > no way of assigning different retention periods for messages in > different public folders. We do have a lot of historical data living > on our public folders and we need to assign different retention > periods for these public folders. Do you know if this is possible with KVS? > > I've convinced them to take a look at KVS again. > > Keeping my fingers crossed. :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Hlabse, Tony > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 10:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > Well which ever your choose or go with it may be a small wait. Both > companies can not keep up with orders as far as I last heard. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Fyodorov, Andrey FTL > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 11:43 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > Some memories are coming back to me. I think Assentor was not > customizable enough, they had their categories for flagging messages > and we could not create our own. That's what WorldTalk allowed us to do. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carmila Fresco > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 12:08 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > > I wish you knew why that person was not happy with Assentor. So far, > I've only found 1 person who has used Assentor in the list. > > I think it still works the same way, however instead of using UDO > jukeboxes, we're thinking of using disk based WORM (EMC Centera, > NetApp Snaplock or Permabit Permeon). We're trying to avoid the media > management problem which we currently have. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Fyodorov, Andrey FTL > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 7:09 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > Back at Credit Suisse First Boston a few years ago we implemented > WorldTalk WorldSecure Server with the compliance piece that stores > messages on a magneto-optical jukebox and indexes archived messages in > SQL database (the entire messages would be stored in SQL database for > a short period of time too for fast retrieval, then only indexes > remain in SQL with message data in the jukebox). Then legal department > reviewers could search the archives using a web interface for messages > with specific offenses, and the questionnable content would be marked > with color-coded flags. > > WorldTalk is now owned by Tumbleweed, I think they still have that > scanning and archiving product. > > Before WorldTalk we also evaluated Assentor but were not 100% happy > with it, I am not sure why because someone else before me was testing > Assentor. > > I imagine things have changed since then, that was 5 years ago. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Carmila Fresco > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 2:03 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > > Personally, I like KVS. However our compliance people need something > that KVS does not do -- hold messages that have reached its retention > limit but are pending litigation. Unfortunately, that feature is > pretty high on their list. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Martin Tuip [MVP] > Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 12:49 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > I don't use either of these 3 .. but I can tell you lots more about > the more better KVS software. > > > -------------------------- > Martin Tuip > MVP Exchange > Exchange 2000 List owner > www.exchange-mail.org > www.sharepointserver.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -------------------------- > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carmila Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:57 PM > Subject: OT: IMR Alchemy MailStore/Ilumin Assentor/Legato Mail Xtender > and Mail Examiner > > > > Is anyone here using either Alchemy MailStore (www.imrgold.com) or > Ilumin Assentor (www.ilumin.com) or Legato's Mail Xtender with Mail > Examiner > (http://www.legato.com/products/emailxtender/emailxtender.cfm) > for email compliance? > > We're currently looking at these 3 products and would love to hear > comments regarding these (pro/cons or any comments at all!). 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