Two brilliants in one day. That is the answer, issue the 5XX after rcpt
to. I am fine tuning our spam filter and want to get rid of the
bazzillion retries from blocked hosts. Thanks much.

JK 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Chris Scharff
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exhange 2003 and 550's
> 
> EHLO or HELO is the required first command sequence. If the 
> receiving MTA issued a 550 response to the RCPT TO commands 
> instead, Exchange would exhibit the behavior you desire. 
> 
> A new RFC seems excessive when a more intelligent functional 
> implementation would achieve the objective. 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > Kennedy, Jim Posted At: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 11:28 
> AM Posted 
> > To: swynk
> > Conversation: Exhange 2003 and 550's
> > Subject: RE: Exhange 2003 and 550's
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Dunno on this one. It just does not feel right.
> > 
> > "The SMTP client is discouraged from repeating the exact 
> request (in 
> > the same sequence)."
> > 
> > In this case, the sending blacklisted server is acting as 
> the client.
> > And right now it is repeating the exact request, and will 
> do so for 48 
> > hours. I realize discouraged does not mean give up.
> > I think it's time for a new RFC that has a provision for a specific 
> > code that say 'Go away, do not retry'.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Ed
> > > Crowley [MVP]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 12:13 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Exhange 2003 and 550's
> > > 
> > > RFC 2821 says:
> > > 
> > >    5yz   Permanent Negative Completion reply
> > >       The command was not accepted and the requested 
> action did not
> > >       occur.  The SMTP client is discouraged from repeating
> > the exact
> > >       request (in the same sequence).  Even some "permanent" error
> > >       conditions can be corrected, so the human user may want to 
> > > direct
> > >       the SMTP client to reinitiate the command sequence by direct
> > >       action at some point in the future (e.g., after the
> > spelling has
> > >       been changed, or the user has altered the account status). 
> > > 
> > > So, I would characterize Exchange's handling of this response as 
> > > appropriate.
> > > 
> > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> > > Kennedy, Jim
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:34 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Exhange 2003 and 550's
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok, I had the sinking feeling that Exchange still does not
> > handle 5XX
> > > errors properly. So today I tested and confirmed.
> > > Hoping I messed something up.
> > > 
> > > I blacklisted my home email server at work. Home is also Exchange 
> > > 2003.
> > > Sent a message to our work server, it was rejected with a
> > 550. But my
> > > home server is still retrying to send it, has been for
> > awhile now. I
> > > telneted into the work/receiving server from my blacklisted home 
> > > server.
> > > As soon as I helo'd I got a 550.
> > > 
> > > Isn't a 550 a fatal, and shouldn't Exchange stop trying
> > upon the first
> > > failure and return the NDR?
> 
> 
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