The problem with that is that exmerge does not do unicode PSTs - so the
mailboxes it can deal with are limited to a bit under 2 GB. For most
folks, that's probably ok tho... 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Molkentin, Steve
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Brick level backups

BLB <> exmerge. Exmerge is an application to allow you to import/export
mail from your IS. A brick level backup is the process of backing up
each individual mailbox as a file (either to tape, hard disk, or some
other media). You can use exmerge to perform your brick level backup.
That's how I see it anyway.

In fact, if I remember correctly, one member of the list created a
script/batch file that output every mailbox using exmerge and then they
backed up those PST's to tape (along with the IS) EVERY night. Perhaps
you could appeal for that file, or script it yourself.

themolk. 
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Erick Thompson
> Sent: Friday, 10 June 2005 11:57 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Brick level backups
> 
> The problem is, we're a non-profit, so the enterprise level software 
> is generally outside of our budget. It was decided that for certain 
> users, there needs to be off site copies of their email for certain 
> periods, distinct from the main Exchange backups.
> 
> Is a brick level backup simply using exmerge? 
> 
> Thanks,
> Erick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Derek Harris
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Brick level backups
> 
> There are much better archiving solutions out there than BLBs, and 
> they will surely be cheaper in the long run.
> Google email archiving, check Slipstick, and here's one:
> http://sherpasoftware.com/ArchiveOverview.shtml (randomly chosen). 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Erick Thompson
> Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 3:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Brick level backups
> 
> This is great, thanks! I can't figure out why there aren't more 
> resources out there on this. I'd use it for archiving old email, not 
> for disaster recovery.
> 
> Thanks,
> Erick
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Albert Eddie
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 6:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Brick level backups
> 
> I thought this might be helpful.. /ALE
> 
> http://www.ultrabac.com/kb6/htm/UBQ000042.htm
> 
> INFO: The Pros and Cons of an Exchange Brick Level Backup And Restore 
> UBQ ID Number: UBQ000042
> 
> Last Modified: 2000-06-05 at 10:43:26
> 
> SUMMARY:
> 
> Can UltraBac do a brick level (single mailbox) backup and recovery?
> 
> DETAILS:
> 
> UltraBac does not do a brick level backup of Exchange. The reasons are

> as follows: A brick level (single-mailbox) recovery requires a brick 
> level backup. A brick level backup is not designed to fully protect an

> Exchange server, one mailbox at a time. It is not an alternative to a 
> monolithic backup/restore. That's because the brick method uses MAPI, 
> which cannot access all of the data in the information store.
> In other words, the sum of the mailboxes is less than that of the 
> store. Thus, a brick restore cannot be used to recover the Information

> Store after a disaster. If used, a brick level backup must be utilized

> in conjunction with a monolithic backup, in order to fully protect the

> server.
> 
> When investigated with Microsoft, engineers discounted the ability of 
> any product that claims to have the ability to do single mailbox 
> recovery. In order for any vendor to claim this feature, the product 
> would have to backup multiple copies of the same message. In other 
> words, it would have to change the Exchange Single Instance 
> architecture database.
> Removing the Single Instance architecture is possible but it would 
> mean longer backup time and greater tape usage.
> 
> Single Instance architecture is a method used by Exchange to reduce 
> the size of the database and also to minimize disk space fluctuation 
> when users read and delete their mail messages. A case in point is 
> that when a message is being sent to 100 users. If all 100 users were 
> on the same server, then Exchange would store only a single copy in 
> the database, but would create a pointer in each of the 100 mailboxes 
> that the message was being sent. When the user reads and deletes the 
> mail message, only the pointer is deleted. Without the Single Instance

> architecture, 100 copies of the message would have to be created. More

> importantly is that when the users read and delete the message, it 
> creates tremendous disk usage fluctuation.
> 
> The problem with Single Instance architecture is that when you restore

> a user's mailbox, you are only restoring the pointer. Hence, you need 
> to restore the complete database so that mailbox pointer would work. 
> In order to restore a user mailbox, Exchange would have to restore all

> messages found on each of the mailbox pointers. That is very difficult

> using tape technology. To accomplish a complete mailbox restore, the 
> backup software would have to remove the Single Instance architecture 
> by replacing the pointer with the message. This requires more time for

> the backup and also more tapes are used. Furthermore, by replacing the

> Single Instance architecture, what happens if one needs to restore the

> whole database? Will the Single Instance Architecture be maintained?
> 
> Current brick level backup capabilities rely on MAPI to access each 
> mailbox to re-create all of the mailbox data in the message store.
> Performance can be as slow as 8MB/min. If studies are to be believed, 
> each message is sent to an average of 4 users.
> Therefore, the size of the resulting data-file (it's not an 
> information store) would increase dramatically because the notion of a

> single-instance does not apply. For example, using the 4:1 ratio, a 
> 30GB Information Store could end up occupying 120GB on 3-4 tapes 
> (assuming 40GB tapes). And that is in addition to the monolithic 
> backups done for disaster recovery!
> 
> As you might guess, brick level backups and restores can easily get 
> out of proportion, both in time for the backups to take place, and in 
> space once the database is restored. (An Exchange database that was 
> backed up brick level, when restored, could be about 4 times larger 
> than it was
> originally!)
> 
> MORE INFORMATION:
> 
> See UBQ: UBQ000020 - Static Exchange & SQL Backups
> 
> See UBQ: UBQ000022 - Defining UltraBac Account as an Exchange 
> Administrator
> 
> See UBQ: UBQ000029 - Exchange Single Mailbox or Single Message 
> Recovery
> 
> See UBQ: UBQ000038 - Exchange Stop/Start Command Lines
> 
> CATEGORIES:
> 
> Exchange
> 
> VERSION:
> 
> 2.x to 5.x
> 
> Copyright UltraBac.com 1999-2001
> 
> Another of the GOOGLE hits...
> 
> http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Exchange-Backup-Strategies.html
> 
> > Behalf Of Erick Thompson
> > 
> > Does anyone have a good link to a site about Brick level
> backups, as
> > in what they are, how they work, why they are good/bad? 
> We're looking
> > at new backup strategies, and we're considering brick level backups.
> 
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