Thanks Chris, it's a firewall that "allows" the null sender.
I'll check the rules to see if it does subsequent blocking obviously the
best idea would be to drop it at that point

Sender is a government agency, seems stereotypical that they would talk
but not want to listen...hahahaha

Cheers
Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Scharff
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August 2005 10:37 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: can't send to a company

Oh.... lol... your non-RFC compliant gateway seems to 550 mail with a
null sender. Uh... You shouldn't do that.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chris Scharff Posted At: Monday, August 29, 2005 5:30 PM Posted To:
swynk
Conversation: can't send to a company
Subject: RE: can't send to a company


Seems pretty straight forward....

"Sender verification failed" 

Something is wrong with the sender. How do they know that?

"Sending test bounce to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550 failed" 

Sending a bounce message to deanc failed? How could that be? Let's test.


telnet smtp.nrc.govt.nz 25
220 NRC Mail
ehlo foo.bar
250-Hello foo.bar, pleased to meet you
250 SIZE
mail from:<>
250 <> ... Sender ok
rcpt to:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
550 Mailbox unavailable. 


Yep. They verify the sender is valid. Your mail server says it isn't so
they don't accept mail from invalid users. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean
Cunningham Posted At: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:08 PM Posted To: swynk
Conversation: can't send to a company
Subject: RE: can't send to a company


What about this one then?


The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

      [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 25/08/2005 23:12
            The e-mail system was unable to deliver the message, but did
not report a specific reason.  Check the address and try again.  If it
still fails, contact your system administrator.
            < nrc15.nrc.govt.nz #5.0.0 smtp; 550-Verification failed for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550-Called: 210.55.18.178    550-Sent: RCPT
TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 550-Response: 550 Mailbox unavailable. 550-Sender
verification failed (Sending test bounce to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 550
failed).> 

It does not look like a DNS lookup problem, more it is trying to check
if I am a valid user.

210.55.18.178 is my firewall that relays the in/out email

For the record we do not have a PTR for this IP, but this error does not
appear to indicate that problem?

Cheers
Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed
Crowley [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, 30 August 2005 4:31 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: can't send to a company

You should begin every post and subject line with "Friggin' Lyris" and
you won't have any problems.

Contact the correspondent's postmaster to try to find out what kind of
filtering they're doing.  The message you've received indicates that
they might be doing some thing like reverse DNS checking.  Do you have a
proper PTR record for your domain?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Chinnery, Paul
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: can't send to a company

Exchange 200 server

We are having trouble delivering to two different companies.  The error
I am getting is:

<mmc-mail #5.5.0 smtp;504 <mmc-mail>: Helo command
rejected: need fully-qualified hostname>

Yet, we have no problem delivering, for example the Exchange Discussion
list, and almost everybody else.  

I assume this is an attempt by these companies at spam control but I
don't know the solution to the problem.

Our DNS is hosted by our ISP.

Can someone suggest a simple or even not-so-simple solution to my
dilemma?  

PS Boy, that Lyris sure is stringent about subject lines.  It rejected 2
of my posts due to the subject line.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Memorial Medical Center

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