In our test setup:
*We started archiving all emails using Journaling
to a special mailbox that GFI MA 'read' and pulled into archive.
*Using the GFI MA EEWiz utility, we had it go
into the mailboxes and grab copies of all emails
up to the date we started the Journalling
archiving. We were able to tell it that any
emails prior to 2006, should go into a separate
database. We did not have to archive all the
users' accounts to a PST file, so that was a nice touch.
*We then set a cap on the test group, and setup
their accounts to auto-purge anything over 3 months old.
For our purposes the program worked quite well:
*It allows the users to search their own archived
mail, forward or restore as needed;
*It allows group leaders to view and search the
emails of their groups. Useful for times when a
client has sent an important email and someone on
the team is out. No more running to us asking us
to search all the email accounts singularly looking for said email
*It allows IT to search all email accounts for an
old email sent to 'someone in the company'.
*It keeps the emails of past employees, helpful
for the time when someone say's 'oh John Smith
told me..' and we check his email account that we
backed up on the day he left and find it's empty...
It's not perfect however. Once an email is in,
you can't remove it. That means spam, emails
that someone regrets sending, all those emails
with MP3's, are all archived. It won't reduce
your store size itself, it's up to you to purge
and then compress the store. Users have to use a
web interface access their archived mail.
For our needs, and it's price range, it was a good solution.
Your mileage may vary.
At 06:12 AM 1/17/2007, Simon Butler wrote:
You do know that you are comparing apples to
oranges with GFI Mail Archiver and Enterprise Vault?
I personally do not feel that you can compare
them, because they do two different jobs.
GFI Mail Archiver is a journaling application.
It uses the journal feature of Exchange to take
a copy of every message as it passes through the Exchange server.
It will do nothing to reduce the size of the
store, as it does not remove items from the
database. If you want to reduce the size of the
store with that product, then you have to
extract the content from the mailbox using exmerge then import the PST file.
On an ongoing basis users need to actually
delete email from their mailbox themselves, GFI cannot do that for you.
I use GFI MA for sites that need to keep a copy
of messages for compliance reasons.
Enterprise Vault on the other hand, while it can
do the above, it is also able to extract content
from the Store and leave a stub behind so that
the user can get access to the item without
actually having to move to a different interface
to get hold of it. It is a much more complex
application than GFI MA. GFI MA is basically an
SQL database with a fancy front end and an POP3
or IMAP client (cannot remember which one it
uses right now) to populate the database.
The difference in complexity is demonstrated by
the difference in the cost of the application and the install time required.
Simon.
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Amset IT Solutions Ltd.
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-----Original Message-----
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody
Sent: 17 January 2007 09:21
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
I'm not just looking for pricing, though it has
to be included in my report, my report is around
95% technical analysis the pricing comes at the
end I just don't want to get sales people hounding me.
-----Original Message-----
From:
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On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: 16 January 2007 16:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
Don't like to deal with sales? Create an RFP and
send it to them with a deadline.
End.
If you don't have enough in terms of
requirements or needs assessment to create an
RFP then you're doing yourself and your company
a disservice by skipping the sales weasels and
just looking for pricing. Pricing alone is a
poor way to select a product/vendor/service.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Posted
> At: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 9:41 AM Posted To: swynk
> Conversation: Best value for money exchange archiving
> Subject: RE: Best value for money exchange archiving
>
>
> Is it possible for people to give me some indicitive prices for the
> different solutions they went with? So far I've found that quest
> archiver manager to be around £30 per mailbox, GFI Mail Archiver is
> clearly stated as $1950 for 100 mailboxes. I have seen a site that
> lists enterprise vault at aroudn $5000 for 500 mailboxes though there
> are suggestions of acquiring different modules what would I require
> bassline and how much is it?
>
> Can anyone tell me prices for mimosa?
>
> I appreciate that this information is what you would normally contact
> the vendors with but trying to get through the thick mud they call
> sales persons is really quite hard to get some form of bassline costs.
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