I'm kinda partial to AFFECT/EFFECT myself. http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html
-- Larry Wahlers Concordia Technologies The Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod MailTo:larry.wahl...@concordiatech.org Business Phone: (314) 996-1876 > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51110440-1338...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51110440-1338...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Christopher Harris > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 12:11 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > The worst one has to be than/then. It gets butchered all the time. > > http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/than.html > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51110413-3707...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51110413-3707...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Mayo, Bill > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:07 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > That one drives me totally insane. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51110389-4906...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51110389-4906...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 1:05 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > I'll bet you see this one the most: > http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/lose.html > > Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51110221-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51110221-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Hawkins, Geni P > Sent: February 13, 2009 12:50 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > That's a great resource. Thanks for sending the link. This > former copy editor thanks you, as I see at least one of these > errors on a daily basis on Teh InterTubes. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51108686-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51108686-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 6:30 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/your.html > > > Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51095706-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51095706-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Brett Fernicola > Sent: February 12, 2009 14:59 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > > The average Exchange Admin can only work within the GUI of > windows and exchange. The advanced exchange admin knows VB, > powershell, etc and can script themselves out of a mess, or > use it to create an adhoc report. > > > And no your wrong again. > > You have to install Perl, and java to support either in Windows. > > Windows all ready understands VB OUT OF THE BOX, and with MS > Log Parser you can mix SQL statements into your command with > out having anything else installed on your box. > > > Again I'm trying to steer people towards the path of least resistance. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51095077-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51095077-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 2:30 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > What? It was Microsoft's best 1.0 product release ever. > > Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51094632-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51094632-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Fred Skrotzki > Sent: February 12, 2009 14:07 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > I've not heard that product mentioned in a good 5 years. > > When I read this message I had this sudden urge to run out > the door screaming... > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093448-3713...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093448-3713...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Tim Vander Kooi > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 1:32 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Sorry, I used msmail prior to Exchange 4. :-P > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093395-2798...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093395-2798...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Hawkins, Geni P > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 12:30 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Well, obviously, to me, *I'm* the average. Hasn't everyone > else been working with Exchange since 4.x, having previously > known more than one would ever care to about IBM PROFS and > OfficeVision (and cc:Mail, and Pine, and...)? > > Thank you, > > Geni P. Hawkins > Systems Engineer > Highline Public Schools > 206-433-2201 > hawki...@hsd401.org > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093332-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093332-597...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:25 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Define "average". I'd be very hard-pressed to come up with a > profile of an "average" Exchange administrator. > > Ed Crowley MCITP MCSE+I MCSE+M MCTS MVP > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral > problems." > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51093267-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51093267-631...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Brett Fernicola > Sent: February 12, 2009 13:22 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > Your missing the point Chris. You and I may fully understand > Perl and programming in general, but that's because we are developers. > > I am trying to steer Exchange Admins who are obviously not > developers or even scripter's towards the simplest easiest > solution. If an admin needs to ask how to analyze his > exchange logs then I'm assuming he's not up to the task of > writing his own solution. Therefore suggesting a custom Perl > scenario may be out of reach for most people; hence why I > recommend people to look at MS Log Parser because they will > find already ready working scripts to answer their ?'s. Those > scripts will also be in a much easier to understand format > thus allowing novices to alter and edit them to fit their needs. > > Nothing against Perl, it just doesn't fit well for the > average exchange admin. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett Fernicola > Systems Engineer > STEALTHbits Technologies, Inc. > (201) 447-9356 > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51090709-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51090709-3785...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Chris Scharff > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > -----Original Message----- > From: bounce-51080486-1429...@intm-dl.sparklist.com > [mailto:bounce-51080486-1429...@intm-dl.sparklist.com] On > Behalf Of Brett Fernicola Posted At: Wednesday, February 11, > 2009 4:28 PM Posted > To: swynk > Conversation: Exchange reporting tools > Subject: RE: Exchange reporting tools > > #1 Windows does not natively support Perl > > So I guess if installing ActiveState Perl on my box is > insufficient I'll use my Ubuntu box. What is that FUD > supposed to mean? > > #2 Making a custom report in Perl is much harder then using > SQL Code and VB. > > Source? Examples? What does that even mean? I can state with > 100% certainty that for me your assertion is untrue. > > #3 Have fun researching and finding help with Perl in regards > to Exchange Metric log crunching. > > I still don't know what an Exchange Metric log is, but I'm > relatively new to Exchange. What would I need help with > exactly? Parsing a log file in Perl? It's one of Perl's core > strengths. Would I need to ask a Perl developer what a log > field or value meant if I didn't know or could anyone with a > working knowledge of Exchange answer that? Is a Perl > developer going to have a more interesting take on message > counting standards than a C# developer? Why can't I debate > that with both? > > > #4 There is already a user base of people using MS log parser > to crunch exchange Logs, they will help and share their > scripts with you. I doubt you will find this level of support > with Perl. > > I assume the 'you' here is the generic you. Because I could > have a half dozen Perl samples in my inbox with a single email. > > #5 Again if you want support, help, & samples use SQL and VB, > which are all understood by windows natively. > > I've helped build Exchange log parsing tools in Java. Got > plenty of support, had developers smart enough to understand > samples written in other languages and I think it was running > on some damn Solaris box for all it matters. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=exchange > To subscribe: http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > leave-51090709-3785410.edab4f1289b098e322e75545dbe85...@intm-d > l.sparklis > t.com > Exchange List admin: lc...@jupitermedia.com > To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: > Jupitermedia Corp. > Attn: Discussion List Management > 475 Park Avenue South > New York, NY 10016 > > Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web 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