That is why it works as Missy described it.  I do use the preview pane,
hence, whenever I open an attachment, it is read-only.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, August 13, 2001 2:10 PM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Attachments Storage locations

Nope-- don't use preview pane. Just open the mail and go merrily on my way.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 12:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachments Storage locations


Curious as to if you use the preview pane or not?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, August 13, 2001 10:35 AM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Attachments Storage locations

I have the same setup, but the behavior is not what you are seeing, rather
it is what Missy described.

Mike Morrison
NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.


-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 4:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachments Storage locations


Hmmm - I am wondering if it is something that is associated with W2K Pro.
My setup is identical to your's, Michèle (except I have SP2 installed), and
we have been the only 2 so far that are seeing the same behavior, contrary
to what others are saying.  Anyone else out there with this setup that sees
the same behavior we are?

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 10, 2001 3:53 PM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Attachments Storage locations

I am also W2K Pro (SP1), OL2K (SR-1) & XCH 5.5 (SP3).  

-Michèle
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-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachments Storage locations


I am also using OL2K against Exchange 5.5.  I am also running W2K Pro.  I
don't know how you are getting the results you are, but I am telling you, I
can't save attachments like that.  If I open an attachment from Outlook, if
it is an Office file, it opens as read-only.  If it otherwise, if I make
changes, I am prompted for a location to save the changed file to.  Sounds
like I am not the only one that has this behavior.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   Walden H. Leverich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 10, 2001 3:26 PM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Attachments Storage locations

Ben,

What client? I'm using O2K against Ex5.5 and I can modify the attachments
all I want. I can then save them back into the mail message on the exchange
box. I'd be shocked if you're seeing different results.

Also, back to your original message, your statement about SIS is only true
if the server receives a single message for 15 users (that is a single MAIL
FROM: with 15 RCPT TO:'s in SMTP). If the foreign server sends the "same"
message 15 times, once to each recepient then there will be 15 copies, not
one.

-Walden

-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Attachments Storage locations


No it wasn't read-only.  The original file I used was also a Word doc, but I
verified it did not have any attributes such as read-only.  I also tested it
with a text file with pretty much the same results - the only difference
being that Word tells you at the top of the doc that it is read-only.
Notepad prompted me to save it as a different name when I made changes to
the attachment.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, August 10, 2001 2:22 PM
To:     Exchange Discussions
Subject:        RE: Attachments Storage locations

Benjamin, I just did the same test you did and got the same results.  But
(!) I was using a Word Document that might have been saved as Read-Only in
the first place.  Were you?

What happens if we try it with a .txt file?

-Michèle
Immigration site:  <http://LadySun1969.tripod.com>
Our new 2001 Miata:  <http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley>
Tiggercam:  <http://www.tiggercam.co.uk>
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-----Original Message-----
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Attachments Storage locations


You're wrong.  :)

Open an attachment in your mailbox.  Type "changing text" at the top.  Close
it - when prompted as to whether you would like to save it, say "yes".
Close the message - you'll be prompted as to whether you would like to save
changes to the message.  Say "yes".

Now, search your hard drive for files named whatever the attachment was
named, and open any you find to ensure that the save was not local.

Open the message and the attachment again.  The text you added will be
there, and SIS has been lost for your instance of that attachment.

Missy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benjamin Winzenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 1:51 PM
Subject: RE: Attachments Storage locations


Your first statement regarding SIS is correct, however, I don't think the
second one is.  When attachments are sent via e-mail, they are always sent s
Read-only (at least I was under the impression they were).  So if someone
opens it and makes a change, they HAVE to specify a location where they want
to save it.  Someone else correct me if I am wrong here.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -----Original Message-----
From: Keith Boettcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2001 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Attachments Storage locations

Windows NT 4.0, Sp 6 and MS Exchange 5.5, Sp 4

How do message attachments fit into the single instance storage feature.
 If 15 users on my server receive an identical message with an 8MB document
attached, That 8 MB is only stored once, correct?

Now someone opens the document and makes a change, then closes the
document, he may save the changes without being prompted for a file name
and location.  Where is that (changed) copy of the file saved?  If his
files are in  PRIV.EDB, is that where the altered copy is saved?   That
would mean that PRIV.EDB would grow by 8 MB after saving the second version
of the document, right?

Keith Boettcher
San Joaquin Valley Library System



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