:) also a great idea.

Basically, just a copy/paste of the EDB files?

Would it be possible to simply shut down all of the services, do a FULL
backup, then a FULL restore (without Exchange-aware) and come back with
everything and NO issues for Exchange? Sounds reasonable, right?

It was poor planning and hasty decision-making, but we got through anyway.
Was 'fun' to have to race through the utilities again (race through
hmm...more like crawl).

So what would you suggest for the old time issue of space hogging? We
deleted over 2 gigs of e-mail and the IS is still at the same size as
before. Online maintenance happens every morning at about 4AM for an hour,
but it is not helping. We were considering doing an ESEUTIL run to defrag,
but from past e-mails, this is temporary as the pages fill right back up in
a few days. If it didn't take so long to compact, I'd do it every day.

Thanks, Ed.

Larry Seltzer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange-aware restores not writing 'restore in progress'
reg key


May I suggest that if you do such an upgrade again, you consider doing an
offline backup?

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of LSeltzer
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 1:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange-aware restores not writing 'restore in progress'
reg key


Richard,

We replaced the drives and restored from a backup. Old HP LCII machines
would require external cages/etc. and all we had was hot-swap disks, RAID5,
and 3 slots in a cage. IDR is a function of completely backing up the NT
Server and restoring it to identical hardware, even though the disks are
larger. It's supposed to be faster - hah! right!

Yup. Tried quite a few TechNet articles regarding log files. What happened
is that the database restored and was inconsistent. We don't know why and
neither does PSS. We tried one restore using Backup Exec and had a 2nd
backup using NT Backup for which we did a restore. It ALSO did not write the
'restore in progress' key. It's very odd. So, it's not a backup software
issue. The database seemed mildly corrupted, but it's the inconsistent
database vs. log files from the backup that bother me.

Since the server is a duplicate of the original (same SIDs, security, name,
etc.), it should work fine. We had no authentication issues when logging in
and nothing was in the logs. I still have log files if you want me to post
any of them.

Nope. We did not revert to a previous backup. We needed the data as/is. We
spent a total of 21 hours (9:30AM Sunday morning to 6:00AM Monday morning)
performing both Veritas IDR and full restores as well as regular old NT
Backup restores. We then did what I mentioned in the first post which is run
ESEUTIL followed by ISINTEG -fix, then -patch. The IS came up, then we had
to fix the MTA by recreating it from scratch. All is fine now, but I don't
want this to happen again.

Larry Seltzer
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Dann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 4:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange-aware restores not writing 'restore in progress'
reg key


Larry,

Could you clarify the configuration. By the looks of things this is Exchange
5.5 but how did you implement the disk upgrade? Was this just the database
disks and did you have old and new alongside so you could move stores using
the performance monitor or did you replace the drives and simply restore
from a backup? Was the OS on the same disks and is this where Intelligent
Disaster Recovery comes in?

Anyway, I'm sure your aware of the two hits in TechNet relating to
4294966768. These imply the problem is with missing log files and you have
the suggestion of getting rid of them. I'm wondering if you've got a
permissions issue, or perhaps the server (having been rebuilt) isn't
authenticating to the domain properly.

As this is a BE backup you could always try a restore with NTbackup.

Would it be safe to assume you've reverted to the pre upgrade configuration?
If so, then on the next attempt it might be better to shut down Exchange
prior to backup giving you a clean offline backup.

regards,
Richard Dann


-----Original Message-----
From: LSeltzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 14 August 2001 16:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange-aware restores not writing 'restore in progress' reg
key


Hi all! It's been a while since I've asked for assistance, but this one's
got us AND PSS stumped.

This past Sunday, we decided to increase disk space on our Exchange server
by swapping disk drives out with larger ones. We went from an 8 gig volume
to an 18 gig (3 9-gig drives/RAID5). All worked well. We used Veritas Backup
Exec version 8.5 with the Exchange agent and Intelligent Disaster Recovery
option. This seemed to backup and restore just fine. However, the IS did NOT
come up. Had service specific error 4294966768 when it tried to start. Tried
running ESEUTIL /r, but that did nothing. We tried on our own to do ESEUTIL
/P which did work, but then the MTA did not start - inconsistent and a
Windows NT internal error 2140 occurred. We restored all over again with PSS
helping us. They had us do exactly what we did prior, but we added ISINTEG
-fix to both the priv and pub.edb files, then ISINTEG - patch. We also were
able to restore the MTA, which again did not work, by copying the mtadata
directory DAT files from the 5.5 CD. All of this worked, although rebooting
caused us to have to run the ISINTEG - patch. We had error 1011 when trying
to start the IS. Anyway, all was ok, but we're still left with the
mind-boggling question "why are these ONLINE Exchange-aware restores NOT
providing us with a 'restore in progress' key?". As per PSS, this should
happen BEFORE the .PAT file creation in the MDBDATA directory.

Ok...any ideas? Anyone else experience these oddities?

Many thanks,

Larry Seltzer
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