heck, I can do that without turning off the monitor.  Just turn off the
computer.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy David
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 1:27 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


If you turn the monitor off, the icons disappear.


Andy David
J Muller International




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


pss. if you change to "small icons", it doesn't look like a Rolodex anymore,
either.

-Michèle
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


ps.  it's not the "Outlook toolbar" it's the "Outlook Bar".  The "toolbar"
is the thing up top underneath the "menu bar".

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Well, excuse me!!!!  I'm here trying to get help because I don't know
EVERYTHING.  In fact, I have not had the luxury of formal training.
I've had to learn everything on the job, on the fly and from books.  The
questions you are asking me don't make sense to me because I'm using the
terminology that is in Outlook.  If you look on the Outlook toolbar,
you'll see a picture of a rolodex and it's called Contacts. As you know,
it has a whole bunch of names and addresses in it.   You can create more
of those rolodex things (Contact lists?) and put them in the Public
Folder, as I'm sure you already know.  Maybe I created my "Contact list"
in the wrong place.  Maybe there's a permissions tab somewhere I don't
know about.  I don't know.  That's why I'm here.

V. Ewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Do I use Outlook!?!?!

Listen here knucklehead who has no clue.  I'm trying to help you out
here and you are using incorrect terms and have no clue what you are
doing.  I have no clue what the hell you are doing because you have no
clue how to word things nor use the proper terminology.

I do know WTF a contacts FOLDER is and I know how to use and configure
the stupid F'in thing.  Apparently you don't.

Now oddly enough when I setup the config you're trying to setup, it
works just fine for me.  No problems at all.  Of course, I know how to
configure my server.

Have you looked in Xadmin to make sure all the permissions are correct
there?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Do you use Outlook?  It is an address book, basically.  It has names,
addresses, phone number, email addresses.  The email addresses will come
up on your outlook addresses list if you check that box in the
properties.

ve

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


OK, you're really confusing me with this "contacts file", is this an
actual file like a spreadsheet or is it a folder containing a bunch of
contacts?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Specifically, I created a contact file named "clients" and put it in the
public folder and set the default to "Editor".  It did not allow others
to edit the contents of the "Client" file.

V. Ewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Explain basically.  I'm a stickler for details, "basically" doesn't tell
me jack S**t.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


That is basically correct.

V. Ewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


So let me get this straight...

You created a new public folder in Outlook called "contacts" and set it
up to contain contact items.  You then went to the properties of the
newly created Public Folder, clicked on the permissions tab, and then
set the permissions to "Default=Editor" and it has not worked yet.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Well, that's exactly what I did, but now they're not able to make any
changes to it.  That's what this is all about.

ve

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Depends...  I don't know what you're trying to accomplish, but I would
create a Contacts folder, that your people could use to enter contact
information for clients or whatever into.  You know, kinda like the one
in Outlook.  That way you don't have to worry about them mucking up the
file and such.  But hey, that's me.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 10:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Well, it's a file that's IN a folder, but I don't see what that has to
do with it.  Do you not use contact files in your situation?

ve

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Why is it a file and not a folder?

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ewart, Vicki
L.
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


This is a Contact file - names and addresses.  Not an email file.
Permissions have been set (I thought) to let everyone edit the
information, but they are unable to do so.  They can go to the
appropriate name, open the item and make the changes, but the system
will not let them save the changes.  I'm trying to figure out why not.
We have a mirror site at another location.  I thought maybe it had to
replicate to that location before the permissions would be updated, but
that doesn't seem to be the case.

V. Ewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Lynne July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


It sounds like there are existing messages in the folder now, yes?  Are
they messages or Word/Excel, or some other type of attachment?  Is it
possible that they were write-protected?

Can the users create a new message or post in the folder?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ewart, Vicki L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


I set the permissions to Editor for Everyone and Default, but didn't
work.  Users could not make and/or save changes.

V. Ewart

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 3:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


If you tell us what you put in, we'll tell you what you left out.  Until
then...

<Senfeld>

"NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!!"

</Seinfeld>


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Vicki Ewart
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sharing contact files


Well what SHOULD I put in?  Is there some place other than the folder
permissions I should be setting up?

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