ROFL.  Aaah yes.   That was priceless.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 11:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits


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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 1:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Mailbox sizes: Incoming/Outgoing message limits


The argument is that E-mail is not the proper method for transferring files.
Why?  Because E-mail is not point-to-point.  If you have a 30Mb file you'd
like to send me, it would make much more sense to make it available to a
browser or FTP client and then send me a link.  If you decide to send me an
E-mail, you will first bog down Outlook while it drops the message in your
outgoing MTA.  And then God forbid you actually have more than one Exchange
server or site - let alone Exchange 5.5.  If so, get ready to wait about 6
hours for the X.400 connector to slug that thing across the pipe.  Uh-oh,
this thing is internal - better let the IMC take care of it.  What?  We have
a virus and content scanning gateway?  Hold on, you can scan it in about 15
minutes.  

SCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCANSCAN

Ok done.  Now lemme route this to mail.speakeasy.net - WHAT?  THEY DON'T
ACCEPT ANYTHING OVER 4MB?  I'm gonna have to send it back.  Here you go
IMC.............

The alternative of course is FTP or HTTP.  Client:  Lemme have that file.
IIS:  Okie hereya go.

My argument has nothing to do with the time it takes to deliver such a large
message, although that might be a consideration for the user.  My job is to
try and maintain the message routing and mailbox servers that become
unavailable while choking on and trying to deliver large files.

Eric (drama queen for a day)

> ------------ Original Message -----------
> From: Schwartz, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 16:25:38 -0400
> 
> I'll have to disagree. If your business is graphic design or something
> similar, then you have a real need to send and receive large attachments.
> Your design should reflect your need. If I need to have bigger servers,
> mailboxes and or internet connections to meet these needs then you should
> be
> able to write a justification for the purchase. Having no limits at all in
> place would not be a great idea unless you like having users call because
> their mailbox is over the limit or your IMS is trying to deliver a 1GB
> video
> that someone made. 
> 
> It is a business decision with technical implications.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:18 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject:    RE: Mailbox sizes:  Incoming/Outgoing message limits
> > 
> > Where I used to work, the most common reason for me getting paged at 3
> am
> > was because someone was sending their Napster directories from work to
> > home using E-mail (this was a very large and well-known organization
> that
> > happened to be run by idiots).  While the need for limits should be
> > obvious to everyone on this group, we are often not in a position to
> > impose these policies.
> > 
> > The truth is that if anything it is more a technical decision than
> > business, due to the fact that the main implication is system
> performance.
> > 
> > Eric
> > 
> >

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