Oh please.
I was simply trying to be nice and not point out so bluntly that Gordon's
question was a fscking stupid one. "What's the best $foo" is, in general a
poor question indicative of a poster who either doesn't understand the area
into which they are delving at all or who is too lazy to actually do a needs
analysis for their organization and is hoping for an easy answer.
I'm aware that every vendor tries to pass off their product as the best of
breed solution for the industry and as being capable of meeting the needs of
anyone and everyone. I'm also aware that it's generally complete bullshit.
However, that doesn't excuse one from doing some basic internal research
into the needs of ones organization with regards to faxing and developing a
set of requirements with which to judge the available packages.
"What's the best $foo?"
Based on cost?
Based on reliability?
Based on integration with Exchange?
Based on vendor support?
Based on required feature $feature?
Based on interoperability with $other_application?
Based on ease of administration?
Based on the name of the vendor whose sales rep your CIO is banging?
So, Gordon I'm sorry I pointed out your question was feeble. Rocky, I'm
sorry you lacked the ability to clue into what was being said. Discussing
fax products isn't off limits, but christ on a cracker, it'd be nice if
those wanting to get information about fax products would at least take the
time to articulate their needs before asking for a product recommendation.
The fax solution I use might be a piss poor solution for Gordon and I fail
to see how my mentioning it is of any value to him in determining what
subset of products to evaluate.
As to Haiku and Fish Tacos... Those are pretty feeble off topic threads as
well and I've mentioned that off list to more than one aspiring poet and
food critic.
This list is a useful resource for getting information quick... Ask a poorly
phrased question and you get lots of bad information quickly. Taking the
time to do some perfunctory research and to develop an intelligent question
often yields better answers, although they come a bit slower, as meaningful
information can rarely be conveyed as quickly as bullshit.
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"I don't care much where--" said Alice.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 7:39 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Fax server - What is the best solution?
>
> C'mon Chris,
>
> What you are telling me is that you are advocating the use of
> the list NOT
> for Exchange discussions (because a newbie might ask dumb
> questions) but
> rather for the stupid and ENDLESS conversations about bloody
> tacos and which
> hole in my body produces the most gas? How about some haiku
> Friday? I have
> no problem listening to that endless drivel all day or most
> of the drivel
> out of the list all week and its "gang" but please don't tell me that
> someone can't ask a question just because its partially
> covered by a FAQ.
> Almost every question asked on this list could be answered
> with some well
> done research off the net. People use lists because they are
> useful for
> getting the information they need quick without a lot of
> research. Once they
> have narrowed their choices down from list responses then
> they can do their
> own homework. Every companies website (for exchange faxing)
> will tell you
> that theirs is the best. Let's not forget the 100 or so FAQU
> responses to
> people's questions about something legitimate. How is someone
> to know if a
> solution is problematic or not without soliciting the help of
> the list?
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Scharff, Chris
> Sent: September 4, 2001 5:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Fax server - What is the best solution?
>
>
>
> The topic has been discussed ad nauseum. Rather than turn a
> discussion list
> into a re-hash list, those who were strong advocates of their
> products made
> arguments for inclusion of their product in the FAQ.. and in
> some cases
> exclusion of their products from the FAQ. Of course the FAQ
> is a living
> growing thing, so if someone had something more intelligent
> to add than
> "I've been using X for 3 days now in my home lab and really
> like it" it
> might be added to the FAQ as well.
>
> If Gordon had asked if anyone knew of a fax product which
> offered a unique
> subset of features then perhaps calling FAQ would have been
> in error. "What
> do you feel is the best fax solution" however is at least 6
> hours of solid
> reading.... in the archives.
>
> *************************************************************
> Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.swinc.com
> Simpler-Webb, Inc. Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
> *************************************************************
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rocky Stefano [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:45 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Fax server - What is the best solution?
> >
> >
> >
> > What's the point of a discussion list then?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
> > Sent: September 4, 2001 4:34 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Fax server - What is the best solution?
> >
> >
> >
> > It gets no less confusing when everyone chimes in with his or her
> > preferences, either. I suggest you review the products based
> > on your own
> > need and cost parameters.
> >
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP)
> > All your base are belong to us.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gordon Olson
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Fax server - What is the best solution?
> >
> >
> > Missy,
> >
> > I actually looked at that, I even have my printed copy of the
> > FAQ. I was
> > just wondering what people were using here on the fourm.
> > There is so mnay
> > different ones that it gets sort of confusing.
> >
> > Gordon
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 12:27 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Fax server - What is the best solution?
> >
> >
> > I'd suggest checking the handy-dandy FAQ at
> > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm. It's so good I
> > even memorized
> > the URL.
> >
> > Missy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gordon Olson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2001 3:18 PM
> > Subject: Fax server - What is the best solution?
> >
> >
> > I would like to get your opinion on what you feel is the best
> > Fax Solution.
> > We are Running Exchange 5.5 SP4 and no plans to move to
> > Exchange 2000 until
> > May 2002. We have a Terminal Server \ Citrix XP enviroment
> > using Outlook
> > 2000. We have 52 remote locations and would like a Fax
> > solution that would
> > use Outlook, what do you suggest?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Gordon
>
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