Mebbe these?

from http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q280/1/32.ASP
XCCC: Exchange 2000 Windows 2000 Connectivity Through Firewalls

NOTE: For the server inside the firewall to communicate back through the
firewall to the external server, you also need to have ports 1024 through
65535 configured for outbound communications. Computers that initiate the
communication through the firewall use a client-side port that is
dynamically assigned and cannot be configured

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q259/2/40.ASP
XWEB: How to Configure OWA to Connect to Exchange Through a Firewall
NOTE: For the Exchange Server to communicate back through the firewall to
the OWA server it is also necessary to have the ephemeral ports 1024 through
65535 configured for outbound communications from the Exchange server to the
OWA server. Although you can specify what ports Exchange listens on for RPC
traffic, you can not specify what RPC ports the OWA application uses for RPC
communications.


Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Hmmm...  I'll see if I can find the Q article.  I've known the range for a
few years now.



-----Original Message-----
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the actual range.
Found the articles on how to make it static, but no range.  Also posted that
question on the list asking about the range and I don't recall anyone
stating what it was.  The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3
times to get the answer. -----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out.  There's plenty of
documentation out there...

-----Original Message-----
From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


Just a note to everyone.  We called Microsoft and inquired what the range
for the two random ports were that Exchange allocates to the client once it
connects to a socket.  According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to
64,000.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the network from the
DMZ to the Internal network.  Being proficient in both Exchange and
Security, I feel sorry for your clients if you suggest the model you propose
below to them.

I think you ought to study up on security some more...

If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in the hell do you
have a DMZ.  You've made the DMZ virtually pointless.  Or did your teacher
or book you read say something different.  If it were a book that told you
to configure things this way, please send me the ISBN number, I really wanna
read that book.  Apparently, I've been taking the wrong approach for years
now.

I happen to know of a company who has the same model you describe.  After I
showed them the security issues, they were desiring a change for the better
immediately.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports.


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:55 PM
> 
> Don't bother.  Use a proxy server and publish OWA.  Or require SSL and
> open port 443.  Or implement a VPN.  I still think putting an
> Exchange front-end
> server in a DMZ is kind of silly.  Not as silly with Exchange 
> 2000 as with
> Exchange 5.5, but silly nonetheless.

Ed, 

I don't find this silly at all. Let me try to clarify:

Scenario A:

You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in
your internal network you have an Exchange server. You also have a web
server (maybe on the same box, maybe different box). You allow HTTPS traffic
through the firewall to the web server in the LAN.

Scenario B:

You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in
your internal network you have an Exchange server. In a DMZ segment (which
can be a third network card in the firewall, or a segment between two
firewalls) you have a web server. HTTPS traffic is allowed to the web
server, and required ports (say, RPC, NetBIOS, InfoStore, Directory) are
allowed from the web server through the firewall to the Exchange server.


Scenario A has following disadvantages:
If your web server gets compromised, the hacker is in your internal network.
You have no means of further restricting access (besides shutting the server
down). Intrusion Detection is almost impossible on the SSL session (unless
you terminate SSL on a proxy and go clear text from there). So a compromise
can easily go undetected, and the intruder can probe your network and
advance access. The primary intrusion containment is all of your internal
network.

In Scenario B you have following advantages:
If your web server gets compromised, the hacker can access everything in the
DMZ. He will have to discover the address of the Exchange server (which can
be made hard through proper host hardening). Once he has that he can attack
the Exchange server, but using Exchange as another stepping stone to gain
access to the rest of your network can again be very hard. All those 'hard'
items will buy you time. In addition, Intrusion Detection in the DMZ can
quickly alert you if it sees 'strange' traffic coming from the web server
(say FTP connections, port scans, etc). The primary intrusion containment is
only the DMZ.

We can even go a step further. Using a host or network based IDS system, you
can potentially reconfigure the firewall in an automated fashion to disallow
any access from/to the web server in the DMZ. Now even the allowed ports are
closed, the attacker has no way into your network.


Scenario B buys you time and has far greater potential of protecting your
internal network.

Now, I'm primarily a security consultant, and less of an Exchange
consultant, so I may look at this differently than the average Exchange
Admin and mail list member. Reading comments like 'placing OWA into the
internal network can secure your DMZ' and 'OWA in the DMZ opens you more up
than OWA in your internal network' just make me scream since from a security
perspective, they are completely wrong.

If anyone wants to seriously discuss this further in a professional manner,
please email me offline as I'm not going to enter a silly discussion with
armchair security 'experts' on the list.

Best regards,
Frank


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