i am quite interested with this debat as may be i will get answer to a recent question i asked with no answer :
what i have to open on isa server to be able from outside to open outlook on an exchange server located in the internal lan i was able to ping on exchange, to let the name resolution but unable to open outlook through a vpn session. only solution was to open a tse session and get outlook. owa was working but slow. where i can get informations how outlook works with exchange ??? thanks -----Message d'origine----- De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]De la part de Stephen Mynhier Envoyé : vendredi 19 octobre 2001 08:06 À : Exchange Discussions Objet : RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. You can set some of the ports as static (IS, DS, MTA, etc.,) but you cannot assign a static port to UDP Push Notification. If ports>1024 are blocked, your Outlook clients might be able to send and receive mail just fine, but the blocked Push will prevent the view from refreshing. This results in the APPEARANCE that mail is not coming in until you change folders, mail not leaving the outbox, etc., Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 2:24 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. Maybe I didn't understand the post. I believe you can especially if your behind a firewall. Refer to Q148732. XADM: Setting TCP/IP Port Numbers for Internet Firewalls [Q148732] -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 3:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. You cannot make that static. That range that you listed is for the UDP Push Notification from the Exchange server to the client. It is a randomly selected (by the client) UDP port above 1024. The Exchange server uses this to send the new mail notification (refresh command) to the client. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 1:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. Went through TechNet and couldn't find any reference to the actual range. Found the articles on how to make it static, but no range. Also posted that question on the list asking about the range and I don't recall anyone stating what it was. The MS tech I talked to had to place me on hold 3 times to get the answer. -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 12:56 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. You could have searched the MSKB and figured that out. There's plenty of documentation out there... -----Original Message----- From: Pfefferkorn, Pete (PFEFFEPE) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:00 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. Just a note to everyone. We called Microsoft and inquired what the range for the two random ports were that Exchange allocates to the client once it connects to a socket. According to Microsoft the range is from 1,024 to 64,000. -----Original Message----- From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. No security consultant I know is going to open holes in the network from the DMZ to the Internal network. Being proficient in both Exchange and Security, I feel sorry for your clients if you suggest the model you propose below to them. I think you ought to study up on security some more... If you open holes from the DMZ to the internal LAN, why in the hell do you have a DMZ. You've made the DMZ virtually pointless. Or did your teacher or book you read say something different. If it were a book that told you to configure things this way, please send me the ISBN number, I really wanna read that book. Apparently, I've been taking the wrong approach for years now. I happen to know of a company who has the same model you describe. After I showed them the security issues, they were desiring a change for the better immediately. -----Original Message----- From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 5:47 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Firewall and Exchange Ports. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 9:55 PM > > Don't bother. Use a proxy server and publish OWA. Or require SSL and > open port 443. Or implement a VPN. I still think putting an Exchange > front-end server in a DMZ is kind of silly. Not as silly with > Exchange 2000 as with > Exchange 5.5, but silly nonetheless. Ed, I don't find this silly at all. Let me try to clarify: Scenario A: You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in your internal network you have an Exchange server. You also have a web server (maybe on the same box, maybe different box). You allow HTTPS traffic through the firewall to the web server in the LAN. Scenario B: You have an Internet connection coming to a firewall. Behind the firewall in your internal network you have an Exchange server. In a DMZ segment (which can be a third network card in the firewall, or a segment between two firewalls) you have a web server. HTTPS traffic is allowed to the web server, and required ports (say, RPC, NetBIOS, InfoStore, Directory) are allowed from the web server through the firewall to the Exchange server. Scenario A has following disadvantages: If your web server gets compromised, the hacker is in your internal network. You have no means of further restricting access (besides shutting the server down). Intrusion Detection is almost impossible on the SSL session (unless you terminate SSL on a proxy and go clear text from there). So a compromise can easily go undetected, and the intruder can probe your network and advance access. The primary intrusion containment is all of your internal network. In Scenario B you have following advantages: If your web server gets compromised, the hacker can access everything in the DMZ. He will have to discover the address of the Exchange server (which can be made hard through proper host hardening). Once he has that he can attack the Exchange server, but using Exchange as another stepping stone to gain access to the rest of your network can again be very hard. All those 'hard' items will buy you time. In addition, Intrusion Detection in the DMZ can quickly alert you if it sees 'strange' traffic coming from the web server (say FTP connections, port scans, etc). The primary intrusion containment is only the DMZ. We can even go a step further. Using a host or network based IDS system, you can potentially reconfigure the firewall in an automated fashion to disallow any access from/to the web server in the DMZ. Now even the allowed ports are closed, the attacker has no way into your network. Scenario B buys you time and has far greater potential of protecting your internal network. Now, I'm primarily a security consultant, and less of an Exchange consultant, so I may look at this differently than the average Exchange Admin and mail list member. Reading comments like 'placing OWA into the internal network can secure your DMZ' and 'OWA in the DMZ opens you more up than OWA in your internal network' just make me scream since from a security perspective, they are completely wrong. If anyone wants to seriously discuss this further in a professional manner, please email me offline as I'm not going to enter a silly discussion with armchair security 'experts' on the list. 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