Consultants are also hired as someone to blame if whatever they are
attempting to do does not work. If you are a CIO, it is tough to blame
someone in your own company if there is a snafu. You can go ahead and rip
your employee a new one or fire them, but in the boardroom, you will still
look bad since you are ultimately responsible for them. A consultant however
can be used for CYA for the CIO and they can also be sued if the problem is
bad enough.


Michael Semiglia



-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Consultants can also be hired by staff to do things they are not qualified
or experienced to setup.

Kevinm M WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, CKWSE


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jon Lucas
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


I'm working on a thought here.  Am I correct?

Consultants are hired because management doesn't trust the staff or their
abilities. Contractors are hired because management doesn't want to hire
more staff. Employees are hired because they can't have a staff of all
contractors.

-Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


He wasn't a consultant, then.  Regardless of his title, he was a contractor!

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Wanna bet?  I got one.  He turned all our smtp addresses into a nonexistent
domain name one night before I could tackle him.

Which I then did.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 2:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Lot you know.  Consultants never touch servers.  They tell their customers
how to touch their own servers.  Then they leave before any damage is done.

Ed Crowley
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hunter, Lori
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 12:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Probably a consultant anyway.  But just for running that without thinking
long and hard about what to do when it did crash, I should turn him into a
toad.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


Hope your resume is current.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Pautz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 5:09 AM
Subject: Exchange 2K crash after defrag with Eseutil


> Help !
>
> Has anybody managed  to recover an information store after Eseutil has

> crashed.
>
> I was busy defragging the private information store and the whole
> process went perfectly until the point where it copies the temp files 
> over the existing files. It copied priv1.edb over succesfully and then

> crashed leaving me with the undefragmented priv1.stm.
>
> I tried to copy the temp .stm across manually and then renamed it and
> performed a whole host of checks with eseutil and isinteg but the 
> server just doesn't want to know about it.
>
> And of course, who didn't check to see that they had a full backup
> before starting the defrag ?
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated
>
> Antony
>
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