This would be the same Microsoft which was hammered internally by Nimda and
has been the first sender of a dozen of so new major viruses I've received
over the last couple of years? 

I've adopted a bit of a different strategy myself. But, to each his own I
suppose.


Chris
-- 
Chris Scharff
Senior Sales Engineer
MessageOne
If you can't measure, you can't manage! 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> 
> 
> Isn't that what Microsoft do (or at least did) internally?  
> I'm sure Dave Walsh of Microsoft said that at a meeting in 
> the UK earlier this year.
> 
> Neil
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: 14 December 2001 16:33
> Posted To: Exchange Mailing List
> Conversation: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> 
> 
> I stand corrected. That sounds like a $wonderful idea.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:36 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > 
> > 
> > The solution would be not to use any AV products on a production 
> > exchange server.  Use an SMTP gateway AV and client AV.
> > 
> > Michael Woodruff
> > System Administrator
> > inChord Communications Inc. 
> > A group of communications companies providing clients 
> > unlimited visibility 
> > 614.543.6405 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:23 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > 
> > 
> > Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV 
> product, so I 
> > don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas' 
> > Exchange server.
> > 
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
> > Senior Sales Engineer
> > MessageOne
> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS.  
> Sophos is by 
> > > far the greatest Anti Virus Software.
> > > 
> > > Michael Woodruff
> > > System Administrator
> > > inChord Communications Inc.
> > > A group of communications companies providing clients
> > > unlimited visibility 
> > > 614.543.6405 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work 
> fine IF the 
> > > background scanning option is enabled.  The only drawback is that 
> > > every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the
> > whole IS in
> > > the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store).  In 
> version 2.14 
> > > the added an option to inhibit the automatic rescanning when new 
> > > definitions are installed.  How did you get version 2.17? 
>  We paid 
> > > extra for a year of updates and had to call and bug them 
> to get the 
> > > corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update.
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you check the archives, I had and still have the same
> > problem here
> > > with NAV and users not being able to move attachments.  I
> > had MS look
> > > at it and Symantec and both blamed each other.  I ran 
> optimiser and 
> > > that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still 
> haven't got round 
> > > to yet) is checking the IS for corruption.  What I have found is 
> > > that when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall)
> > > it starts of working fine and then gradually performance 
> > > becomes a real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined 
> > > (when quarantining is disabled!) and users start to get mail 
> > > sitting in the outbox for a while.  I am running NAV 2.17 
> > > Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI.  Ex 5.5 SP4.0, NT4.0 SP5a.  
> > > 
> > > Stephanie.
> > > University of Glamorgan.
> > > UK
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Exactly.  Well almost, I'm at the background part.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > So your problem is the same one I ran into:
> > > 
> > > -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it 
> > > supported).
> > > 
> > > -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode.
> > > 
> > > -Users could not move multiple messages at once without
> > errors.  Also
> > > exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an 
> incomplete export.
> > > 
> > > -Went back to MAPI only mode.
> > > 
> > > -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the 
> > > background scan.  No complaints yet, but I have not tried
> > to break it
> > > either.
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Yes I am, I'll look for that option.  Thank you.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > Are you running Norton AV for exchange?  If so, there is a
> > background
> > > scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new 
> > > definitions arrive.  Once they are prescanned, a multi 
> message move 
> > > will not require all the messages to be checked for
> > viruses.  I turned
> > > on the background scan option here and it took over a day to scan 
> > > everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update
> > came in the
> > > middle of that.
> > > 
> > > Tom
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A while back I submitted a item about getting errors(access denied
> > > errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and
> > someone suggested
> > > it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something
> > to do with a
> > > scan time or something.
> > > Does anyone have the vaguest clue what I'm talking about?
> > > 
> > > I looked back but I cant seem to find it.
> > > 
> > > Recap
> > > Single site, single domain.  Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4
> > sp6  Users
> > > trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant
> > move access
> > > denied errors.
> > 
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