Hey, Chris, pearls before swine, ya know? Besides, doesn't every mailing
list all over the world fall to its knees and worship newbies?

Michael: a friendly tip. This list has been in existence for about six years
now (give or take) and many of us (moi aussi) are original list members. A
community has developed out of this association and you're the guy who only
just moved into the neighborhood.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 1:27 PM
Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig


> I look forward to your making me look completely ineffectual by providing
> hundreds more answers in a more timely and insightful manner than I have
for
> members of this list over the past 4 years. Once that happens perhaps
> someone might suggest it's worth my while to take you out of my killfile.
>
> Until then... *plonk*
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:25 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > I can see that this discussion list needs new members.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 12:53 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > Maybe, but he's OUR smart-ass. Besides, you ain't seen me
> > when I get rollin'.
> > ;)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:46 AM
> > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> >
> >
> > > This guy sure is a smart ass.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 11:35 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm. I think I covered that in my review of Antigen 6.0. ;)
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:52 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You can use the Sophos engine with Antigen.
> > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > -K.Borndale
> > > > Network Administrator
> > > > Sybari Software
> > > > 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> > > > 631.439.0689 -fax
> > > > http://www.sybari.com
> > > > "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > |        |          12/14/2001 11:22 AM      |
> > > > |        |          Please respond to        |
> > > > |        |          "Exchange Discussions"   |
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> > > >
> > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
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> > > >   |
> > > >
> > > >               |
> > > >   |       To:     "Exchange Discussions"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >                                    |
> > > >   |       cc:
> > > >
> > > >               |
> > > >   |       Subject:     RE: Antivirus causing move errors
> > > > thingamajig
> > > >                    |
> > > >
> > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > ------------|
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sophos doesn't appear to have an Exchange 5.5 aware AV
> > product, so I
> > > > don't know how great of a solution it would be for poor Thomas'
> > > > Exchange server.
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > > --
> > > > Chris Scharff
> > > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > > MessageOne
> > > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 9:45 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Being from the UK I would think you would use SOPHOS.  Sophos is
> > > > > by far the greatest Anti Virus Software.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 10:44 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am running NAV 2.12 in MAPI/VAPI and it seems to work fine IF
> > > > > the background scanning option is enabled.  The only
> > drawback is
> > > > > that every time the definitions are updated it must rescan the
> > > > whole IS in
> > > > > the background (about 24 hours for our 20G store).  In version
> > > > > 2.14 the added an option to inhibit the automatic
> > rescanning when
> > > > > new definitions are installed.  How did you get version
> > 2.17?  We
> > > > > paid extra for a year of updates and had to call and
> > bug them to
> > > > > get the corporate 7.6 update but they sent no navmse update.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Halliday S (ISELS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 5:09 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > If you check the archives, I had and still have the same
> > > > problem here
> > > > > with NAV and users not being able to move attachments.  I
> > > > had MS look
> > > > > at it and Symantec and both blamed each other.  I ran optimiser
> > > > > and that didn't cure it. The next stage (which I still haven't
> > > > got round
> > > > > to yet) is checking the IS for corruption.  What I have
> > > > found is that
> > > > > when I upgrade to a new version of NAV (uninstall/reinstall) it
> > > > > starts of working fine and then gradually performance becomes a
> > > > > real issue with alot of stuff being quarantined (when
> > quarantining
> > > > > is
> > > > > disabled!) and users start to get mail sitting in the
> > outbox for a
> > > > > while.  I am running NAV 2.17 Build 75 in MAPI/VAPI.
> > Ex 5.5 SP4.0,
> > > > > NT4.0 SP5a.
> > > > >
> > > > > Stephanie.
> > > > > University of Glamorgan.
> > > > > UK
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: 11 December 2001 18:17
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Exactly.  Well almost, I'm at the background part.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:10 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > > So your problem is the same one I ran into:
> > > > >
> > > > > -Had old NAV for exchange 2.0 running in mapi mode (only mode it
> > > > > supported).
> > > > >
> > > > > -Upgraded to NAV 2.1 and enabled dual mapi/avapi mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Users could not move multiple messages at once without
> > > > errors.  Also
> > > > > exporting to a PST file would cause errors and an incomplete
> > > > > export.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Went back to MAPI only mode.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Got nervous and went back to MAPI/AVAPI mode but enabled the
> > > > > background scan.  No complaints yet, but I have not tried
> > > > to break it
> > > > > either.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 10:22 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes I am, I'll look for that option.  Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Alverson, Thomas M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 7:12 AM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > > Subject: RE: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you running Norton AV for exchange?  If so, there is a
> > > > background
> > > > > scanning option that will prescan all your mail whenever new
> > > > > definitions arrive.  Once they are prescanned, a multi message
> > > > > move will not require all the messages to be checked for
> > > > viruses.  I turned
> > > > > on the background scan option here and it took over a
> > day to scan
> > > > > everything (about 20gig of mail), but a definition update
> > > > came in the
> > > > > middle of that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 4:28 PM
> > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > Subject: Antivirus causing move errors thingamajig
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > A while back I submitted a item about getting
> > errors(access denied
> > > > > errors) when moving emails to and from mailboxes and
> > > > someone suggested
> > > > > it may be related to VAPI mode in my antivirus, something
> > > > to do with a
> > > > > scan time or something. Does anyone have the vaguest
> > clue what I'm
> > > > > talking about?
> > > > >
> > > > > I looked back but I cant seem to find it.
> > > > >
> > > > > Recap
> > > > > Single site, single domain.  Exchange 5.5 sp4 w/hots, NT4
> > > > sp6  Users
> > > > > trying to move large emails or lots of emails get a cant
> > > > move access
> > > > > denied errors.
> > > >
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