The Exchange IMS default is 18 and can be changed (MaxReceivedHeaders),
atleast that is what I have been telling myself for 4 years.  Or are we
talking about the MTA? Or both?

-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question


After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 512 I
believe (don't know if this can be changed).
Does the RFC say what constitutes a trivial loop?
Not really.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM
Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question


> Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this for me
> since I got nary a response last time:
>
> 6.2 Loop Detection
>
>    Simple counting of the number of "Received:" headers in a message has
>    proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of
>    detecting loops in mail systems.  SMTP servers using this technique
>    SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100
>    Received entries.  Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST contain
>    provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops.
>
> What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops?
> What constitutes a "trivial loop"?
> Are these stupid questions?
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
>
>
> If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions, and
> many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html
>
> Chris
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > um... is it really not obvious?
> >
> > 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO: line)
> >      Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or
> > the recievers
> > server
> > 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means
> > it's too big)
> >      and what is the limit in size that someone can send out.
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener, Richard
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> >
> >
> > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have
> > seen about 8 of them today.
> >
> > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.
> >
> > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100
> > The message that caused this notification was:
> >
> >
> > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.
> >
> > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 5120000
> >
> > The message that caused this notification was:
> >
> >
> >
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