It also depends on the wing drag. You know that a bird who's molting has
less feathers then one who has a full set of wings.


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True, but in a test lab the results are always different.

Fsking groupshield. (just thought I would add that)

-----Original Message-----
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That could be another variable to the formula. I think the cross wind
factor in Chicago would be more then in Seattle, but the air in Seattle
is more dense due to the rain.

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Chicago or Seattle?

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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You forgot the cross wind factor.


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How fast does a deflated bird fly?

(Translated from Office XP Thesaurus)

If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore:
L = (1/2) d v2 s CL
L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds 
d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude.
v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second 
s = the wing area of the bird in square feet 
CL = Coefficient of lift

Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl.  Therefore it's a trick
question.

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What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow?

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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You asked three questions:
What is your name?
What is your quest?
What is your favorite color?

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> You didnt answer my last question. ;)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to 
> 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say 
> what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this 
> > for me since I got nary a response last time:
> >
> > 6.2 Loop Detection
> >
> >    Simple counting of the number of "Received:" headers in a message
has
> >    proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of
> >    detecting loops in mail systems.  SMTP servers using this
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> >    SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100
> >    Received entries.  Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST
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> >    provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops.
> >
> > What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What 
> > constitutes a "trivial loop"? Are these stupid questions?
> >
> >
> > Andy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM
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> >
> > If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions,

> > and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Scharff
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> > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
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> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM
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> > > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > um... is it really not obvious?
> > >
> > > 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO:
line)
> > >      Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the 
> > > recievers server
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> > > big)
> > >      and what is the limit in size that someone can send out.
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> > >
> > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen 
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> > >
> > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.
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> > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The 
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