Just like Dr. Ruth.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jennifer Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:47 AM
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> All's fair in war.  I am a birds and bees guru.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:39 AM
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>
> Hey! Thats not fair! My last name is a bit feminine ( a lot of old ladies
in
> the UK called Joyce) but i have never known a female called Louis?
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Computer Support Analyst
> Network Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 January 2002 13:34
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> For someone who has a feminine first *and* last name, I would be
careful...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:23 AM
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
> Someone explain to her about the birds and the bees.
>
> :)
>
> Regards
>
> Mr Louis Joyce
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 January 2002 13:24
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
> And why couldn't the male carry the egg?
>
> I'm calling HR.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:22 AM
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>
> Is it a male or a female bird? That way you should keep in mind that the
> female bird could carry an egg.
>
>
> Martin Tuip
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:17 PM
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
> It's a contained environment with no crosswinds.
>
> No more honey for you if you stomp on my parade!!
> Now, back to the show.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 5:11 AM
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
> Pretty much as I understand the latest theory of bee flight but put much
> better than I could have done. But it does prove that the formula
> presented by Jennifer may not hold true for everything that flies.
> However, is a deflated bird flying or just a projectile being shot from
> some device?
>
> Coming back to bees it is with great sadness to know that at least the
> humble bumble bee in Britain is reducing in numbers, no more honey for
> us!
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 January 2002 13:04
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
>
> Obviously bumble bees do fly but no fixed wing study in a conventional
> wind tunnel has shown how enough lift can be generated to lift the huge
> mass of a bumble bee (compared to its wing size). A wide range of
> studies have been done in recent years to try to understand the bee's
> unique method of flying.
>
> Insects like the bee do not flap their wings up and down as one might
> think. The movement of their wings is forward and backward. Lay your
> right hand on the table (palm down) and move it to the left. That is
> what the bee does as the first part of its wing beat. This movement
> produces lift because your hand produces the same effect as an airplane
> wing. Air moving over the top produces a low pressure because of the
> greater curvature, a principal known as Bernoulli's principal. Now flip
> your hand over (palm up) and return it to its original position.
>
> Computer studies shown that the timing of the flip is critical. The wake
> of the forward stroke allows the wing to recapture energy as the wing is
> moved back. There is a surge of forces on the wing as this happens which
> provides great lift at minimal energy. Dr. Adrian Thomas of Oxford
> University says, "The whole system is a lot more complicated than we
> thought." A lot remains to be done to understand this, but the
> maneuverability and efficiency of it indicates man needs to understand
> to improve his own methods of flying.
>
> To suggest that such systems come about by chance strains credibility to
> the limit. The enormous complexity of the motion, the design of the
> wings to do the flying, and the support system that moves the wing all
> speaks of highly planned and designed structures that we still do not
> totally understand.
>
>
> Does that answer your question?
>
> Martin Tuip
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:59 PM
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> I am impressed with all this theory but to digress slightly, can you
> explain how a bee flies?
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 04 January 2002 12:55
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> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> You forgot the cross wind factor.
>
>
> Martin Tuip
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jennifer Baker
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 1:49 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> How fast does a deflated bird fly?
>
> (Translated from Office XP Thesaurus)
>
> If it's deflated then it's flat. Therefore:
> L = (1/2) d v2 s CL
> L = Lift, which must equal the Bird's weight in pounds
> d = density of the air. This will change due to altitude.
> v = velocity of a flat bird expressed in feet per second
> s = the wing area of the bird in square feet
> CL = Coefficient of lift
>
> Looks like you have left out L, d, s and cl.  Therefore it's a trick
> question.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:29 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
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>
> What is the air speed velocity of an unladen sparrow?
>
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
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> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> You asked three questions:
> What is your name?
> What is your quest?
> What is your favorite color?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
>
>
> > You didnt answer my last question. ;)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
> >
> >
> > After 5.5 SP2 the Received headers were counted. The limit is set to
> > 512 I believe (don't know if this can be changed). Does the RFC say
> > what constitutes a trivial loop? Not really.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: Was: Question from a troll to a Yoda - Now: RFC Question
> >
> >
> > > Since we are on this subject again, maybe someone can answer this
> > > for me since I got nary a response last time:
> > >
> > > 6.2 Loop Detection
> > >
> > >    Simple counting of the number of "Received:" headers in a message
> has
> > >    proven to be an effective, although rarely optimal, method of
> > >    detecting loops in mail systems.  SMTP servers using this
> technique
> > >    SHOULD use a large rejection threshold, normally at least 100
> > >    Received entries.  Whatever mechanisms are used, servers MUST
> contain
> > >    provisions for detecting and stopping trivial loops.
> > >
> > > What mechanism does Exchange use to detect and stop loops? What
> > > constitutes a "trivial loop"? Are these stupid questions?
> > >
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 3:21 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> > >
> > >
> > > If you take the time to read RFC2821 you can answer those questions,
>
> > > and many others for yourself. http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2821.html
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > --
> > > Chris Scharff
> > > Senior Sales Engineer
> > > MessageOne
> > > If you can't measure, you can't manage!
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:29 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > um... is it really not obvious?
> > > >
> > > > 1) There are too many recipients in the email (that's the TO:
> line)
> > > >      Whats the max amount would this be on the my server or the
> > > > recievers server
> > > > 2) The email is larger than the message limit (that means it's too
>
> > > > big)
> > > >      and what is the limit in size that someone can send out.
> > > > -- Drew
> > > > ********************************
> > > > Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now! "Each time a
>
> > > > person stands up for an idea, or acts to improve the lot of
> > > > others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny
>
> > > > ripple of hope, and crossing each other from a million different
> > > > centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current that
> > > > can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance."
> > > > --Robert F. Kennedy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tener,
> > > > Richard
> > > > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:17 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: Question from a troll to a Yoda
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Can any Yoda tell me what this error or NDR means. I have seen
> > > > about 8 of them today.
> > > >
> > > > 1.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.
> > > >
> > > > 553 Too many recipients in the mail, should less than 100 The
> > > > message that caused this notification was:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2.) A mail message was not sent due to a protocol error.
> > > >
> > > > 12107454 bytes exceeds server limit of 5120000
> > > >
> > > > The message that caused this notification was:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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