Lori, I give the accounts a 30-day grace period before I add them to the list.
Jim -----Original Message----- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL with no Members (WAS) RE: High Physical Memory Utilizati on That's cool, I hate spammers more than the actual canned stuff, but I would say that you should wait a bit after the person is gone before you add them to your vaporizing DL. They might have had SOME business contact, it's not all fun and games out there. Or is it? If it is, I want to work where you work. -----Original Message----- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:46 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL with no Members (WAS) RE: High Physical Memory Utilizati on Ok...I deleted the DL and recreated it, with only the x400 addy and 2 smtp addy's...one is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that it has an x400 addy, it still gives me the same error message to my personal account. Note: Lori...actually, I want e-mail to users that have left the company and would normally generate NDR's back to the sender to simply vaporize. While I know it is not RFC 822 compliant, we have been getting hit with so much SPAM lately that I don't really care. As Andy David said (I think), "Most Spammers won't remove you or are simply too stupid to know how." (paraphrased) Jim Blunt -----Original Message----- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL with no Members (WAS) RE: High Physical Memory Utilizati on Lori, Three instances in the APPLICATION Event Log that a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] was undeliverable and that an NDR was being generated. However, Peter hit the nail on the head with his "Q" article. When I deleted the SMTP addy for the DL, I got overzealous and deleted the X400 addy as well. Man...there's nothing like Exchange to keep kicking you in the teeth and reminding you how much you have to learn and remember. As a coworker of mine used to say, "Would you like some ketchup with that book?" Jim -----Original Message----- From: Hunter, Lori [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DL with no Members (WAS) RE: High Physical Memory Utilizati on But you don't get a COPY of the mail sent to the postmaster mailbox, do you? Don't you still want the sender to know that the address is invalid, but you personally don't want to see the mail bouncing by? I just sent something. Let me know if you got a copy in postmaster. -----Original Message----- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:21 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: DL with no Members (WAS) RE: High Physical Memory Utilization Mr. Lefkovics / Dr. Dogg, When I send an e-mail to an address I know to be on the DL in question, it should just disappear, without any notification to me or the postmaster, correct? Instead, when I send to an address on that DL, I get the following error message from the System Administrator account: From: System Administrator Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:09 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Undeliverable: Test Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. Subject: Test Sent: 1/15/2002 11:09 AM The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 1/15/2002 11:09 AM Unable to complete the expansion of a distribution list The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=HANFORD;l=ERCEX06-020115190847Z-31857 MSEXCH:MSExchangeMTA:ERC:ERCEX06 1. The name of the DL is DL-ERC-Deleted Accounts 2. The DL has no SMTP addy of its own. 3. The DL is hidden from the GAL. 4. It is set to expand on any server in the site. 5. It is set to accept from all and not reject anyone. 6. No one but me has permissions to it. 7. It's not on any other DL's. 8. There are no members in this DL. 9. It only has 10 SMTP addys associated with it. 10. None of the addy's exist anywhere else. Thanks for the help. Jim Blunt -----Original Message----- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:12 PM To: Blunt, James H (Jim); '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization LOL! How did I get in there? No NDR should be returned if the SMTP alias is typed correctly. And no error message should be returned. At least not in my Exchange5.5 experience regarding this. I haven't read this thread (sorry) but I'd log into hotmail or something and send to this person and review the NDR. Praise be to Allah. William -----Original Message----- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization Hey Dr. Dogg, Got a question on that little NDR thingee... I implemented that little DL tip as well, when I saw that on the list...and it IS hidden. Since then, I have gotten an NDR for an employee that left. In that NDR, directly in the To... list was the name of the new, hidden DL. The DL has no SMTP addy of it's own now, thanks to Chris Scharff's tip yesterday and it has NEVER been used to send an e-mail out. However, is it POSSIBLE (maybe not probable) that when the message comes in for the SMTP addy in the DL and it tries to send to the blank list, that at that point it sends an error (not an NDR) message back to the originator, with the DL name in the e-mail??? To read the full thread yesterday, look under "OWA Enumeration Question". TIA, James H (Jim) Blunt Network / Microsoft Exchange Admin. Network & Infrastructure Group Bechtel Hanford, Inc. 509-372-9188 -----Original Message----- From: Milton R Dogg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization The box is a Dual Xeon 550 Compaq server with an External RAID array. I get that too. Takes me a few minutes to load the admin mail box. Then there are about 2000 new NDR'S and such in there every day when I load it. That box hates me. But thanks to Mr. Lefkovics that is getting better. <paste> NDR's By William Lefkovics The black hole is to create a DL that has multiple SMTP addresses of ex-employees, but make sure there's no members in the DL. Messages sent to the relevant SMTP addresses simply vanish. Shame you can't put a few selected people into the DL as well. :-) </paste> Milton R Dogg Of The Dogg Foundation.. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Saul Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 1:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization How many, and what speed is your processor on your Exchange Box? I am running 1gMhz, with 1g Ram, for about 200 users, and I still get "Requesting data from the Microsoft Exchange Server" Share your secret on how you do that? 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