There's always the Thorazine solution...retrofit the water supply where you
work, so that it's constantly feeding a metered dose of liquid Thorazine to
the user population.  They won't care if they have e-mail problems!

Do the Thorazine shuffle!

-----Original Message-----
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files



The best way to deal with stress is to daydream about your coworkers and
baseball bats.

S.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 3:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


Assume you mean the global 'they'.  The worse thing is paranoia seems to
grow exponentially with how much you learn about a system which does little
to reduce stress, and therefore bad habits associated with the reduction of
stress.  <sigh>.

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 9:05 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


You're only paranoid if they're not out to get you. We all know , of course,
that they're all out to get you. ; )

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files

Good point.  I forgot about perfwiz.  Call me paranoid, but I'd still do a
full backup before running perfwiz.

-----Original Message-----
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:42 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


If you use perfwiz to move them, it will be ok [1].  Especially since when
perfwiz shuts down Exchange services to run, all logs will be committed to
the database anyways.  

But yes, a backup ASAP is in good order.  I don't recommend deleting the
logfiles until a good backup [2].

S.

[1] I give Skip enough credit to assume that when he meant "move the
logfiles" he was indeed talking about PerfWiz. [2] Unless Skip is using
circular logging [3], in which case it doesn't really matter. [3] *GASP*

-----Original Message-----
From: Leeann McCallum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


I wouldn't move them.  Exchange expects to find them in the place they are.
Get a full backup done asap.  Do it now

-----Original Message-----
From: Taylor, Skip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, 17 January 2002 8:30 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


I do a full backup every night but had a bad tape so the log files did not
get deleted and the server came to a halt.  I only have a 2gb partition for
these files.  I'll see about moving them to a different partition.  I just
did not know what was considered normal.

Thanks to all who replied,

Skip Taylor, MCSE
Network Administrator
Jordan, Jones, & Goulding


-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MDBDATA Log Files


5-10 minutes?  That's terrible!  It should be every 12 minutes!

Those are transaction logs.  They are created as email traffic is created.
Someone sends that 100MB mpeg of Scharff in a pink dress (you know the
one!)
then the transaction logs will be created a little faster than that...

William 


-----Original Message-----
From: Skip Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MDBDATA Log Files


How often should Exchange be writing MDBDATA log files?  Our Exchange server
appears to write a new 5mb log file every 5 to 10 minutes.  I searched the
FAQs and Archives but did find an answer.  Here's our system.
 
Single Server
Exchange  5.5 SP 3
NT 4.0 SP 5
550 users
 
Is this normal?
Is this a Mail Loop? If so how can I find it?  
Is some one relaying mail off my server?  If so how can I stop it?
 
Thanks, 

Skip Taylor, MCSE 
Network Administrator 
Jordan, Jones, & Goulding

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