Ah yes, one must count on always having to defend one's budget. I would actually worry if I didn't have to defend it.
Not knowing how you are set up or how big you are, I'll make some general pointers here. Usually it's up to a manager/director/CIO to ultimately defend the budget. And this needs to be done at the highest levels of the accounting department, don't waste your time with the hirelings. On an office move/rebuild, the decision to perform such a task should not be finalized until feedback from all departments on the cost/impact of the move is factored in. It's not like there is a good/better/best selection for cabling, like you are picking an Earl Schibe paint job for your car. There is an absolute minimum requirement and specification for a cable plant. Yes there might be some nice extras you could include, but below a certain point it is not supportable. The one case where the above doesn't fly is when you are a fairly small company and the owner has a cousin who knows this guy named Chewy who can do the job for .20 on the dollar of what a real cable contractor would charge. You can't win there, you pitch your case to the boss and then let him make the decision. Working in a small company requires that you accept that there of lots of decisions that may not seem wise, especially in the long run. But then again sometimes that is the only way a small/new company can survive and grow. Being that Intas appears to be heavily involved in the scientific, research, and project communities, they should understand a proper presentation of costs, risks, expected outcomes, etc. -----Original Message----- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: average lifespan server yeah, but how do you educate them? Thing is: a large scale refurbishment of the building is planned but I'm gonna have to defend a budget for IT. They don't even want to fork out for decent cabling.... If I have some best practices to back me up then at least I have something to say... K/ -----Original Message----- From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 24 January, 2002 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: average lifespan server Yes, but that person had no clue on real life in IT, and also reneged on that claim when I pressed them to provide one example of a server they had that was that old still running in a production. The original question requires more parameters. Were they inquiring about the general life span of a server? Or perhaps about the GAAP for depreciation of servers. Was this for real world planning or budgeting purposes? Perhaps they are looking for some best practices which might include reassigning functionality (from file server to a BDC/DC to MP3 archive server) of a box as it ages. If it the accounting department that can't grasp that a 3 year depreciation schedule is appropriate rather than a 5 year schedule, they need some education. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:15 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: average lifespan server I remember someone around here not too long ago was speccing for 10 yrs... :) -----Original Message----- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:38 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: average lifespan server > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 24 January 2002 10:00 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: average lifespan server > > > how do you deal with your accounting department? They can't grasp it > that a machine is worthless as a server after three years... They don't? As much as I hate our whiny beancounters, they are actually pretty good here at understanding computers depreciate in value to the point of probably needing replacement after 3 years. -- This e-mail is intended for the addressee shown. It contains information that is confidential and protected from disclosure. Any review, dissemination or use of this transmission or its contents by persons or unauthorized employees of the intended organisations is strictly prohibited. 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