More an aversion to using something (POP/IMAP) with passwords in clear text and since 
Outlook doesn't support APOP we have to go over SSL. Having said all that, I have to 
do HTTP over SSL with OWA and a front-end/back-end topology anyway ... so I'll just 
get my coat :) 

Mylo

-----Original Message-----
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 March 2002 01:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K


Why? What's wrong with POP/IMAP?

IMAP4 over SSL for example. 

Why would you rather give them Hotmail?

William


-----Original Message-----
From: Myles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K


I'd be happier giving them a hotmail account than POP/IMAP..

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 March 2002 16:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K


Let's see -

OWA = SSL

POP/IMAP = doesn't happen on my network, but it it did, it would only be via
VPN

------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Plahtinsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 8:48 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K
> 
> 
> How do you guys secure exchange with OWA and POP/IMAP if you 
> don't put it in a DMZ?  
> 
>  
> Matt
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 8:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K
> 
> 
> There should be a rotating tag line appended to each message;
> 
> "Exchange doesn't belong in the DMZ"
> "PST=BAD"
> "BLB=BAD"
> 
> Etc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:22 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K
> 
> 
> Go with your instincts.  Keep it out of the DMZ.
> 
> There's lots of history on this in the archives of this list.
> 
> Missy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Myles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 7:47 AM
> Subject: Front-End/Back-End Topology - Ex2K
> 
> 
> Posted this on the ISA forums a few days ago, but thought it 
> might be an idea to post for discussion.
> 
> A while back I tested a FE/BE topology with the FE server 
> sitting on or DMZ, opening numerous ports on our interior 
> firewall to allow AD/GC lookups through etc.  Now it comes to 
> actual putting these fruits of labour into practice in a 
> production environment, I'm far from convinced of the 
> rationale of placing a FE server on a DMZ, given the security 
> implications of doing so with regards the numerous open 
> ports.  I'm more inclined to allow to publish the front-end 
> server (on our LAN) and allow remote users to connect through 
> HTTPS, secured behind ISA, acknowledging there is always a 
> risk putting Internet-accessed resources on a production LAN.
> 
> Since this is a back-to-back firewall, the following ports 
> would need to be opened
> 
> Exterior Firewall
> -----------------
> 443/TCP HTTPS
> 25/TCP SMTP
> 993/TCP IMAPS
> 
> Interior Firewall
> -----------------
> 80/TCP HTTP
> 143/TCP IMAP
> 25/TCP SMTP
> 389/TCP LDAP
> 389/UDP LDAP
> 3268/TCP
> 88/TCP KERBEROS
> 88/UDP KERBEROS
> 53/TCP DNS
> 53/UDP DNS
> 135/TCP RPC
> 445/TCP NETLOGON
> 
> I know a lot of the above can be secured over SSL and RPC 
> limited to a single port (rather than anything above 1024), 
> and that I can tunnel HTTP through IPSEC or VPN. However, 
> since I'm using SecureNAT clients with ISA, IPSEC isn't really viable.
> 
> Would appreciate any feedback on this and to find out what 
> the general consensus of opinion is?
> 
> Regards
> Mylo
> 

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