First off, you obfuscated the domain name of the server. As has been said
here many, many times that makes it very difficult for the rest of us to
help troubleshoot.

Second: neither the IMS in 5.x or the SMTP service in Win2K use wording like
"sorry..." That's coming from the system you're sending to. Your server does
not send NDRs back to itself; the OTHER system is the one that sends the
NDRs.

Now, how about we start over?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Szabo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits


> Receiving user over his/her quota?
>
> /Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Q Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits
>
>
> > I understand and I think the issue here is my poor communication skills.
> > mail01-ens.domain.com is MY mail server. The mail server where no limits
> are
> > set!
> > I appreciate the advice.
> > I think my question should have been, What does, "that message size
> exceeds
> > my databytes limit" mean in terms of where are the possible settings for
> > these limits OTHER than the two places I have mentioned. (below)
> > Are there any other places?
> > Yes the message is CLEAR, I just don't know if I have ALL the places it
> > could have been set.
> > This is what I got from the message,
> > #5.3.4 smtp -     5.X.X Permanent Failure
> >                           X.3.4 Message too big for system
> >
> > 552 - sorry, that message size exceeds my databytes limit.
> >
> > So I looked at the limits and found no inconsistencies. Please let me
know
> > where I went wrong, besides coming to this list!, ridicules included.
:-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> > - John Q
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben Winzenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:32 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re:mailbox size limits
> >
> >
> > > John, what Daniel is saying is that if you look at the error message,
it
> > > CLEARLY says that the message is being rejected BY
mail01-ens.domain.com
> > as
> > > indicated by the 552 sorry, that message size exceeds
> > > My databytes limit.  I think there are many times that admins don't
> trust
> > > themselves.  This may or may not have been the case here.
Understanding
> > > error messages is one of the basic functions of our jobs.  It is
> > frustrating
> > > for many of us here when the same questions get asked over and over
when
> > all
> > > it would take is 2 seconds to actually look at the message and say to
> > > yourself, Oh, this is the domain I am sending to.  Oh, they are saying
> > that
> > > the message size exceeds their limit.  Plus, if you know that you have
> no
> > > limits set on your servers, then it really is a no-brainer.  Trust
> > yourself
> > > a little more.  It will make things easier.
> > >
> > > Ben Winzenz, MCSE
> > > Network/Systems Administrator
> > > Peregrine Systems
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: John Q Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 4:04 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits
> > >
> > > Dan -
> > >
> > > I have thought about this, as I listed below, I understand that there
> are
> > > size limit issues.
> > > But where these are controlled was my question, or where the size
limit
> > > issue is.
> > > I can, will, and do research and read, but thank you.
> > >
> > > - John Q
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 12:38 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Re:mailbox size limits
> > >
> > >
> > > > I see Soysal already answered. I'll take this opportunity to rant a
> > little
> > > > bit.
> > > >
> > > > The title of administrator carries with it an implicit ability to
> > > logically
> > > > think things through. The error message you are getting below is
> > > > _completely_ clear - mail01-ens.domain.com obviously has a message
> size
> > > > limit.
> > > >
> > > > THINK, dammit. Stop expecting the world to earn your paycheck for
you.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "John Q Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 2:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re:mailbox size limits
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have a user that is using a mail that gets this error when
> > attempting
> > > to
> > > > > send an attachment that is 47K.
> > > > >
> > > > > mail01-ens.domain.com #5.5.0 smtp;552 sorry, that message size
> exceeds
> > > my
> > > > > databytes limit (#5.3.4)>
> > > > >
> > > > > The default limits are set to No limit for sending mail size in
> > Message
> > > > > Delivery Properties.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then I looked into the user profile delivery restrictions and it
was
> > set
> > > > to
> > > > > Use default limit, so I changed the Sending message size to
"Maximum
> > KB:
> > > > > 200". But the user still gets the message.
> > > > >
> > > > > Where else are the limits set?  Is this what the error message is
> > > > referring
> > > > > to?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - John Q
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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