The three movies you don't want to hear (in the order they were given)
are:

"You've got Mail"
"Gone with the Wind" - note that the reason given was something other
than the burning of Atlanta.
And ... the remake of "Three Men and a Baby".

Those three answers, unheeded, resulted in a wall-licking troglodyte
with an MCSE.

I agree with Serdar completely. That question should always be the
deciding one in a hiring situation.

Tom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Cerification question

What are the 3 movies?

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From: "Soysal, Serdar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Cerification question


> This may sound odd but there is one golden question that will tell you
> exactly if the candidate will fit the group or not: "What are your
three
> favorite movies?"  If the person likes similar movies as the general
team
> and sounds smart, than he/she is a good buy.
>
> Serdar Soysal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 8:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Cerification question
>
>
> I deal with (new and different) people daily who have "worked with
Exchange
> for years" but don't know their database from their check file. I
wouldn't
> let them within 20 feet of any Exchange server that I worked on but
they
are
> the hired "Exchange expert" for their company.  The fact is that
people
are
> people, and certified people are not inherently better than
experienced
> people or vice versa.  I think that the best bet is the person who
realizes
> that, regardless of how much he knows, he does not know everything and
is
> always willing and wanting to learn more than he currently knows.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:43 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: Cerification question
> Subject: RE: Cerification question
>
>
> Very good points.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Cerification question
>
>
> You people talk like you can't have both. Sure there are some paper
MCSEs
> out there but there are also many MCSEs that have mucho experience.
Most
> hiring managers, all things being equal will look at experience first
but...
> then certs.  Additionally while experience is the best there are
people
that
> have worked in one environment for so long that they know NOTHING
about
any
> other capabilities of the hardware/software.  They are nearly as bad
as
the
> paper MSCE because the scope of their knowledge is so very limited and
> because of their experience think the only way to run a network is the
way
> they did it at their last job.  At least the Paper boyz know they are
> limited, are willing to learn, cost half as much and don't cause half
the
> drama the "experience" guy does.  They piss me off so much more, that
and
> they usually have no idea as to WHY their last network was set up that
way
> but that it is just the best way.  Experience is NOT always the best
> qualifier either
>
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