Friggin' Lyris! Great to have you back Ed!
-----Original Message----- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 7:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Archive I think we agree, more or less. I don't believe that e-mail administrators are the best ones to decide what information to keep or delete and for how long. I also happen to think that lawyers aren't either. My point is that document retention policies, as with many other policies like service level agreements, aren't based on sound business decisions, but instead are based upon fear. Ed Crowley hp Services --- David Florea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Users are always free to maintain whatever e-mails > or files they want, and it's our job to help them do > just that. If they determine a file should be > deleted, then we help them do that too. That's not > hiding anything, that's just good and efficient > practice. And I wouldn't think you're trying to put > us admins in a different policy-making arena than > that. If you're talking about intentional > destruction of evidence in a legal matter, that's > different, and I agree with you. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:59 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Archive > > > As I've always said, document retention will benefit > those organizations who act ethically. I don't > think > it makes sense to destroy all your evidence when > those > with an axe to grind keep all theirs. Those with > nothing to hide shouldn't be hiding it. > > Ed Crowley > hp Services > > --- Dean Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Ed, as usual, is correct. > > > > Depends what the risk is to people making binding > > commitments via email that > > may cost the company $$$. > > Email here is considered a public record (as > > indicated in our email policy). > > > > Emails are easy to create/modify by the other > party. > > Having an audit trail > > of mails sent/received may be of value to your > > company. > > > > I have every email that has gone through the mail > > gateway for the last 5 > > years on CD. > > This process is automated to the point where 18 > > months worth of detail in > > held in an oracle Db and the only human > intervention > > is to write the monthly > > data on to CD's > > > > This may assist us in any litigation issues, and > as > > a public company, we > > have nothing to hide. > > > > We keep archive tapes back to '89, when we arose > > from the ashes of about 30 > > public sector organisations > > > > I have has cases of senior managers needing > e-mails > > from up to a year old > > that they had inadvertently deleted ( or told the > > other party they never > > received it) > > > > Our litigation processes here are not quickly and > > extensively used here in > > NZ, unlike *other* countries..... > > > > > > cheers > > Dean > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, 29 May 2002 5:46 a.m. > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Re: Archive > > > > > > Another way to look at it: What's the worth of > old > > e-mail? > > > > Ed Crowley > > hp Services > > > > --- Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > How long do most of you hold tapes? We are > > looking > > > to establish a > > > standard on how long to keep tapes in archived > > > before reintroducing them > > > back into the tape rotation to be overwritten. > I > > > know there are many > > > differnent ways to look at this as far as cost > per > > > tape, storage space, > > > legal aspects, and disaster recovery and wanted > to > > > know what people > > > thought was a good period > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > List posting FAQ: > > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > > Archives: > > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > > To unsubscribe: > > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > This email is not an official statement of the > > Waikato > > Regional Council unless otherwise stated. > > Visit our website http://www.ew.govt.nz > > > ********************************************************************** > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: > > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup > http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: > http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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