They're bad, but not because of looping.  I've really gotten to hate
them.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I
Tech Consultant
hp Services
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet


I for one think that if most of the Exchange community thinks OOF to the
internet is a prima facie bad or risky thing, they're wrong.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:11 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> 
> 
>   It wasn't the gun that killed him.  It was the bullets!
> 
>   I think the point is that if that under controlled environments, you

> can safely say that OOF alone won't be the first cause of a mail loop.

> As long as you are sure that no one has any other weird rules.
> 
>   However, since my servers are connected to the internet and have to 
> interact with many strange and alien mail systems which aren't under 
> my control and can't be counted on to do the right thing, it's enough 
> for me to take the advice of most of the rest of the Exchange 
> community and not allow
> OOF to the Internet.
> 
> 
>   Jim H
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> 
> 
> Yes, but that was the forwarding rule that looped, not the OOA. Even 
> though it was probably set up in the same dialog box as the OOA, it's 
> still two different mechanisms.
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:22
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> 
> 
> I have, in fact, seen this very thing just recently.  The situation 
> was
> this:  an executive had setup an OOF message with a rule that
forwarded
> all
> of their email to their home email address.  Well, sure enough their
home
> email reached it's limit and started to play ping pong with their
office
> email.  By the time we caught it (this was on a weekend) their office
> email
> had over 20,000 "postmaster" and "Message Delivery failure" messages
in
> it.
> I immediately killed the forwarding rule and notified the Help Desk in
> case
> the executive called in.
> 
> While this may not be exactly what you enviioned it is nonetheless an 
> example of what can happen iun such circumstances.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> Nate Couch
> EDS Messaging
> 
> > ----------
> > From:       Ben Winzenz
> > Reply To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent:       Thursday, August 1, 2002 09:58
> > To:         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:    RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> >
> > Prove it.  Since OOF fires only once "per sender", how does it cause

> > or
> be
> > a
> > part of a loop?  I'm just curious.  If it does in fact cause a loop,

> > I would like to know how it does.  Not trying to be sarcastic here, 
> > or anything else, but can you describe the situation where you saw 
> > this happen?
> >
> > Ben Winzenz
> > Network/Systems Administrator
> > Peregrine Systems
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 3:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> >
> >
> > OOF can, in fact, cause a ping-pong effect out to the Internet.  
> > Been there, seen it, turned it off.  Yes, there could have been a 
> > rule that affected it
> > also, but it still is a no-no at my Company.
> >
> > Geoff.......
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 4:09 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: OOF Messages to the Internet
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, at 12:40pm, Ben Winzenz wrote:
> > > Sorry, but that is NOT Out of Office.  That is a rule that was set

> > > up. Out of Office fires only ONCE per sender.  Period.  Allowing 
> > > autoforwarding to the internet will cause mail loops, but not Out 
> > > of office to the internet.
> >
> >   Er, oh yeah.  *sheepish grin*  I tend to lump them together in my 
> > head...
> >
> > Sorry 'bout that.
> >
> > --
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