Hello,

Yes, it does suck.  Toss all your cute Excel spreadsheets that made various account 
management tasks a snap.

We've moved to VB scripting for account creation/management.

Decrease personal discretionary spending, increase savings, and retire before the next 
big update.

Brent  

-----Original Message-----
From: Moore, David K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: Thursday, September 19, 2002 1:17 PM
Posted To: MS Exchange List
Conversation: Test
Subject: It all started with a lie - Q313819



So, I write this to test the waters and see how others have managed this issue -

For many years, going back to 4.0, we used CSV files to create/manage/delete mailboxes 
within Exchange and this worked well.  Then comes along Exchange 2000, which with it's 
integration of Active Directory and the requirement to use LDIFDE.  Ok, no problem I 
can learn new tools and I learn the silly new LDIF import format and I make it do what 
I want it to do - mailbox enable an existing AD account.  All is well until a few 
weeks following the mailbox enabling of the accounts, our users discover access to 
public folders (along with free/busy, off-line address book, etc) can not be had.  A 
call to Microsoft produces the answer that, the attribute of msExchUserAccountControl 
had not been properly populated into AD.  Microsoft writes a script for us that uses 
CDOEXM to re-set the permissions and while this does resolve the problem for existing 
users it doesn't resolve the on-going problems.  So, Microsoft transferred me between 
a few groups (it's hard I guess to know what is what when you've got half of your mail 
system managed by another non-communicative group - Active Directory support) where I 
landed with an LDIFDE support engineer.  This engineer then proceeded to explain that 
it was not possible to create mailbox enabled AD accounts with LDIFDE and pointed me 
to an article Q324353 [XADM: Users Cannot Access Public Folders or Delegate Mailboxes 
on a Separate Server] which states:  "If you want to use LDIFDE/ADSI to create users, 
Microsoft recommends that you use LDIFDE/ADSI to create only the user accounts, and 
then use Active Directory Users and Computers to create the mailboxes." to which I 
replied that Microsoft does support it and the answer can be found in Q313819 - [HOW 
TO:  Create Mailbox-Enabled Account Using LDIFDE in Exchange 2000 Server] and after a 
bit of discussion Microsoft decided that it really "sucks".  It all seems to boil down 
to the fact that no one knows how the encoding of msExchUserAccountControl is done (in 
PSS that is) and without the ability to set that attribute at creation time, the RUS 
does not properly setup the account and Microsoft has no intentions to support this, 
even with the Q article on how to do it.

So, my question?  Simple - has anyone managed to use LDIFDE to create and mailbox 
enable or just to mailbox enable an existing account in AD and had it work properly, 
namely the use of public folders?

I don't know about others that have a long history with Exchange but, do some of you 
feel that Exchange has made some real steps "backward" from the functionality that 
Exchange 5.5 had?  And a word of warning to those still on 5.5 - if it aint' broken, 
don't "fix" it.

Thanks,
david moore
Chevron Phillips Chemical


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