Ah, yes. I recall that incident. If you choose to use a RBL, read very carefully what the criteria is to be placed on their lists. As Darcy said before, some of these folks block entire netblocks. There is one or two that I know of that have blocked the entire Sprintlink netblock. That's something like 2 million IP addresses. All because one or two spammers somewhere in that mess. RBL's are fine if you are running your own mail server at home. For businesses that depend on e-mail for their communication, why would you place the decision on who can send to your domain into the hands of some mail Nazi? I've found many of the people that run RBL's are not interested in stopping SPAM, they are interested in having the internet working the way they want it to. (i.e. Dr. Cummings) We even went to the point of contacting the author of the RFC to clarify the proper place to reject a mail message. The answer from the RBL'ers? We don't care.
That's why I won't use them. Ever. -----Original Message----- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad@;inovis.com] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: RBL's More likely a combination of b) and a fundamental lack of understanding of how the RBL they have chosen works with regards to managing their black hole lists. Purusal of the archives with regards to Mr. Schwartz and Dr. Cumming about this time last year should provide some valuable insight to the issues with RBLs in general. That being said, I'm fairly impressed with the Spamcop.net RBL - they provide documentation of their blocked senders via the web, and are very quick to retest and remove if the problem has been solved. ------------------------------------------------------ Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA > -----Original Message----- > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org] > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 5:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > That's a little harsh. (I love it when you're harsh...) > > Do you mean they are not aware of it, or they are unable to comprehend > its functionality? > > William > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of > Chris Scharff > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:49 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > 97.25% of mail admins are too stupid to understand what an > RBL actually > is/does. I for one hope they continue to rely on 3rd parties > to provide > the > functionality, otherwise I'll likely have to join you in > phoning stupid > admins to tell them why RBL $foo is costing their company business. > > -- > Chris Scharff, MVP MCSE > EMS Sales Engineer > MessageOne > 512.652.4500 x-244 > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams@;gettyimages.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 3:42 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: RBL's > > > > > > Still 3rd party. I was at a meeting at MS on Monday night > > and the current stance on that is that they're "thinking > > about possibly" including RBL support in a future release. > > > > Darcy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 1:50 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RBL's > > > > > > Hey does exchange 2k have a rbl feature or is this 3rd party? > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange@;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
