And in general, the business needs of a firm providing free web based
e-mail, vs. the business needs of a Fortune 500 company are a tad different.
So are the usage patterns and a host of other factors. My only comment about
RBLs as it related to your question (not being defensive, just reiterating
for those who might have lost track) was that I hoped Microsoft would not
integrate RBL functionality directly into the Exchange product because I
felt that such solutions were best left to 3rd party vendors... and then
proceeded to mention a couple of reasons why I thought this to be true.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:36 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I originally questioned about RBL's for exchange because we host a large
> .com whose main stay of business is free web based email.
> They have 100k plus users and get spammed to death. We have content
> filtering tools, we can blacklist known spammers, and we can even shut
> down
> ip's at the router. They still get spammed to death hurting their service.
> Customers complain. The owner of this .com asked us to use spamcop. Since
> enlisting spam cop 100's of thousands emails are now refused a day!! All
> of
> the users were notified of the use of spamcop and were told to report any
> emails that should have gotten thru. It has been 3 months now and one
> reported email that should have gotten thru did not. Our customer is
> happy,
> his users are happy and we spend a lot less time tracking spammers. Our
> servers are happy, our sans are happy, I'm happy. Oh our bandwidth is
> happy
> also!!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erik Sojka [mailto:esojka@;NBME.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 9:50 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
> 
> 
> "You following remark ... Seems to say" ?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: William Lefkovics [mailto:william@;techsanctuary.org]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:26 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > "depsite it's poor grammar" ?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116@;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Walsh, Ric
> > Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 11:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > Ok your "spelling" remark was rude to all of us.
> >
> > You following remark despite it's poor grammar seems to say that the
> > rest of us are dumber that you. I'd have to say that it was ALL rude.
> >
> > Ric Walsh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:     Walsh, Ric
> > > Sent:     Thursday, October 31, 2002 10:32 AM
> > > To:       Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject:  RE: RBL's
> > >
> > > Ok what makes you such a wizard? Also add the word rude to
> > that. Have
> > you
> > > though of taking an anger management class?
> > >
> > > Ric Walsh
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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