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-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP


What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account?

Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:47 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP


For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial
automatically.


-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM
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TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP.



Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM
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Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP


How?????  That is what I am looking for.

Thank you,
 
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
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(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914

-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM
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Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook.

You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes.

Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP


The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down.  It's a laptop and
it will hibernate.  These are XP pro laptops.  I know about the scheduled
task.  That is mainly what I am looking to do.  I am just looking for a
switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens.  Outlook already will then
detect the connection state and dial.  It will disconnect automatically when
it's done downloading all the mail to the OST.  You don't need to specify a
time for how long it needs to download.  I am just trying to find something
that hits F9 when Outlook opens.  I can get outlook to open I just need a
command for 1 stinking key stroke.  After that I know how to get Outlook to
do the rest.  If Outlook is open in the morning when the user wakes up
that's fine.  We can live with that.  


-----Original Message-----
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:30 PM
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Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk.  In addition, if you're
using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for
several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration?

Nevertheless...

What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download mail,
hang up, and shut off.

Ok.  I suppose that might be doable, sort of.

Now, you don't mention what operating system your users are using.  I have
Win2KPro.  In START/PROGRAMS/ACCESSORIES/SYSTEM TOOLS, there's a program
called "Scheduled Tasks".  In that, you can schedule outlook to be launched,
and if you look at the advanced properties of the task, on the SETTINGS tab
you'll see a check box for "Stop the Task if it runs for X hours and X
minutes."  That MIGHT shut outlook down.  Honestly, I don't know.  You can
test it and try.

Even if it does, there's no way for the task to know if all the mail has
been downloaded, so you'll have to guess.  Also, I doubt that this would be
a graceful shutdown, so you run the risk of causing problems with your PSTs,
which you must be using.

As Daniel said, there are rarely technological solutions to behavioral
problems.  I think this is one of those times, and the real solution is to
"fix" it very differently.

A far better solution is a VPN, as has been mentioned, or even Outlook Web
Access, which might be somewhat faster than POPing.

Did you look at the technet article Chris kindly posted?


Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit


-----Original Message-----
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:07 PM
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Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP


Your being a total jerk about this question.  I don't see what isn't
technical about this question.  It wasn't a question of what our people do,
its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much manual work
and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head. It is creating a
technical solution for a non technical problem.  Isn't that what technology
does?  I apologize if I didn't give enough detail. These users are all on
dialup and receive large emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all
day.  When they go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours for
all the mail to download.  The company doesn't want them billing for the
time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to download.
They would rather schedule it at night and just have the rep read it while
they are in the field the next day.  As far as the question goes here is a
refresher:

Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in Outlook XP that I
could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and perform a
Send/Receive and then close Outlook?  Or is there any third party software
that would do this.  Remember this is Outlook XP and the security is
different.

All you had to do was post back if you knew something.  You don't have to be
rude about it.  Whether the user is awake or asleep is irrelevant all I
needed to know is if you knew of anything.  Maybe you don't know what a
command switch is?  I don't know.  All I am looking for is something like
"Outlook /sendreceive" (obviously that isn't it or I wouldn't be posting
this), so that I could put the switch in the scheduled task to run
Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to dial if there is no connection, run a
send/receive, and be done with it.  Or if there was a
third party app that would do this for me.   

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