Would it be career suicide to go over their heads to the CIO directly; or is
there nobody higher up who would understand/act upon your recommendations?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:33 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Its because the people that are between me and the CIO are wimps.
> Sorry. If I had it my way a lot of things would be different 
> here. I make plenty of arguments they just ignore me.  But 
> think of the job Market and how weak it is for us right now.
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator (unfotunatly) Handleman Company 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Well... Uh...how can I say this without being seen as rude or flaming?
> Hmm... Well, there is no way to say it.
> 
> You are the _Senior_ Systems Administrator. Take control. Are 
> you not responsible for the efficient and continued operation 
> of this network?
> Can
> you not make a successful argument that misuse of it costs 
> the company money, both real and in lost availability?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:09 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for 
> Send/Recieve on OXP
> 
> 
> That my friend is a long standing battle.  We have people 
> that think its
> ok
> to send out 30meg files to these people. 
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:59 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and
> all
> they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store
> manager,
> the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but 
> rather a user
> issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't
> need
> these massive files. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
> OXP
> 
> 
> Honestly Martin I have no idea.  I think they print them off and show
> them
> to the store manager.  I don't really know everything those people do.
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to 
> a printer,
> or
> are they just FYI, or what?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
> OXP
> 
> 
> Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in 
> the store.
> Some
> of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department has
> shrunk them down quite a bit.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> <thinking outside the box>
> 
> What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all
> users,
> specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one 
> store, group
> of
> stores, or what? There may be another way to do this.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
> OXP
> 
> 
> Both.  Home offices all over the place.  We are a music distributor.
> These
> people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or
> Walmart
> with music.  They are in the store all day long stocking 
> shelves so they
> don't have connectivity. 
> 
> Thank you,
>  
> Alex Gonzalez
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Handleman Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is 
> it a number
> of
> people all over the place?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
> OXP
> 
> 
> Actually they don't check their email all day.  They just download the
> days
> mail and read that till the next day.  We are trying to implement
> wireless
> cards so that they can always check mail.  Right now its too
> inconsistent
> for our reps.  They stock CD's at stores and there is too much RF in
> many
> for it to work.  Plus there isn't enough 3G coverage yet nationally.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his
> email 8
> times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There
> are
> 3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20
> minutes
> per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
> OXP
> 
> 
> > Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to
> be
> > doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions 
> with gusto
> and
> > aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in
> silly
> > banter or name calling.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:13 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Wow.....Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something 
> > > new :)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Gonzalez, 
> > > Alex
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for 
> Send/Recieve 
> > > on OXP
> > >
> > >
> > > Your being a total jerk about this question.  I don't see 
> what isn't
> 
> > > technical about this question.  It wasn't a question of what our 
> > > people do, its how to automate our systems so they don't 
> have to do 
> > > as much manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit 
> the nail on
> 
> > > the head. It is creating a technical solution for a non technical
> > > problem.  Isn't that what technology does?  I apologize 
> if I didn't 
> > > give enough detail. These users are all on dialup and 
> receive large 
> > > emails with large attachments (pictures mainly) all day.  
> When they 
> > > go to synchronize their inbox it can take up to 2 hours 
> for all the 
> > > mail to download.  The company doesn't want them billing for the 
> > > time it takes to sit in front of their laptops waiting for it to 
> > > download.  They would rather schedule it at night and 
> just have the 
> > > rep read it while they are in the field the next day.  As 
> far as the
> 
> > > question goes here is a refresher:
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of a command switch for Outlook.exe in 
> Outlook XP 
> > > that I could create a scheduled task that would open Outlook and 
> > > perform a Send/Receive and then close Outlook?  Or is there any 
> > > third party software that would do this.  Remember this 
> is Outlook 
> > > XP and the security is different.
> > >
> > > All you had to do was post back if you knew something.  You don't 
> > > have to be rude about it.  Whether the user is awake or asleep is 
> > > irrelevant all I needed to know is if you knew of 
> anything.  Maybe 
> > > you don't know what a command switch is?  I don't know.  All I am 
> > > looking for is something like "Outlook /sendreceive" 
> (obviously that
> 
> > > isn't it or I wouldn't be posting this), so that I could put the 
> > > switch in the scheduled task to run Outlook.exe, setup Outlook to 
> > > dial if there is no connection, run a send/receive, and 
> be done with
> 
> > > it.  Or if there was a third party app that would do this for me.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:51 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > > Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the 
> actual problem
> 
> > > to be solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly 
> > > phrased technical questions.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > >
> > > > If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled 
> > > > execution of the F5 key, and would have kept my mouth shut. Or 
> > > > perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off the resource
> kit
> > > > (win2000 i think).
> > > >
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 
> > > > Monday, November 25, 2002 11:34 AM Posted To: MSExchange
> > > Mailing List
> > > > Conversation: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> > > Send/Recieve on
> > > > OXP
> > > > Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> > > Send/Recieve on
> > > > OXP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I did, however, ask Santa for the thingy that will read
> > > email to me in
> > > > my sleep.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Tom Meunier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:31 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
> > > Send/Recieve on
> > > > OXP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think once the guy post the actual problem he's 
> trying to solve,
> 
> > > > rather than his non-solution to it, it will become clear
> > > that either
> > > > BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the problem.
> > > > But who knows, since he won't give any details.
> > > >
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