Hmmm okay.

Actually, versaggi.com - is the address of my partner - in which we are
the consultants working on this project.  The originator of the messages
(that was having problems sending to glencap.com) was just forwarding
the information to my friend @ versaggi.com to show him the errors he
was getting.

I checked dnsstuff.com - to check for the blacklists - and it came back
(almost) squeaky clean.  Also, they are using XO Communications as their
ISP (which I am not happy with) - and I know that TONS of their IP
blocks, and clients, are on Spam lists up the Wazoo.

I just hope glencap.com isn't being lumped in, with some other Spammers.
That would stink.  Also (much to my dismay), when we moved facilities
(and ISP's), we didn't get a full Class C this time - which stinks.
Because some companies / Spam lists, will simply block an entire Class C
- and not go the extra mile, to figure out which SUBNET the Spammer came
from - so they end up blocking TONS of other legit companies that are on
that Class C.  All this crap started when we lost our Class C, and moved
to XO - with our chopped up Class C.

Well, moving on - that still doesn't answer the question of the "Unknown
User" - because if they are doing Spam checking, before the message gets
sent, wouldn't it intercept it before it could make to the destination
server?  If that's the case, the 550 message should never get an
opportunity to present itself.  This is happening, once the glencap.com
mail server is contacted, and a connection attempt with a particular
user is being made.

I am really stumped on this - 

Thanks for the info though,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 9:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Well Mike,

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but both of the recipient
organizations are on the FiveTen RBL.

Checked both glencap.com and versaggi.com against www.SamSpade.org.

So if your servers are checking the destination address against RBL's
before sending, would you get an error similiar to that?  I don't know.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Hi Ed,

The first thing I checked was Reverse DNS - it's absolutely perfect - I
even checked it using remote systems - and DNS verifiers.  Rock and
Roll.  As far as Black Lists - I will check ORBS and a couple others -
but this is a Capital Management company - nothing but first class
people (and business
practices) and they never did a mass mail in their lives - so I just
can't fathom them being on any type of list.  Ok - just checked it -
they are on NO blacklists.

It's possible they are lumping this particular error message with all
the other crap they are throwing at us - saying, that it's happening
more than once.  I *know* the unknown user error is happening often -
and that's my #1 concern right now.  I really don't feel that the other
problem mentioned above is happening often at all.  Today is the first I
heard of that particular one.

Now regarding the NDR (for the Unknown User error) - here it is:

        > Unknown user: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        >
        >
        > Original message follows.
        >
        > Received: from UltimaThule [66.73.199.56] by clovisinc.com
with ESMTP
        >   (SMTPD32-6.06) id A9944C510150; Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:16
-0500
        > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        > To: "Kim Kolesar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        > Cc: "Matt Versaggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
        > Subject: Fw:  Undeliverable Mail
        > Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 15:31:14 -0500
        > MIME-Version: 1.0
        > Content-Type: text/plain;
        > charset="iso-8859-1"
        > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
        > X-Priority: 3
        > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
        > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106
        > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106

If anybody has any ideas, or anything I should check, please let me
know.

Thanks,

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 10:24 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Unknown User problems (help!)


Please post the entire NDR. 

In response to the second question, it appears that your server is being
rejected.  Two reasons this might occur is that you don't have a valid
reverse DNS (PTR) entry, or you are on one or more realtime blackhole
lists (RBLs).

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 6:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hello,

Ever since we moved our business to another building down the road, and
switched ISP's (with a new block of IP's), our Exchange Server has been
acting up.

We didn't have to change hardly anything after moving - except some IP
addresses on the ISA Firewall Server's external interface, and some DNS
settings on the Exchange Server (for outgoing mail DNS resolution).

>From time to time, external users that are sending e-mail to users on
the Exchange Box, are getting "Unknown User" error messages.  This has
NEVER happened before - and am desperately trying to figure out, how
changing ISP's, can cause all these problems.  How the heck could a
remote system, get as far as opening a connection all the way to the
Exchange Box, and once authenticated etc., it's unable to find a
particular user on the system - when they are there plain as day??? This
server has never hiccupped a single time before the move - 

Also, (here is another good one), on AOL and similar systems, from time
to time, users that had no problem before the move, could send mail to
particular users with no problems, are NOW they are getting similar
error
messages:

        > The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
        > [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 5/28/2003 4:37 PM
        > The e-mail account does not exist at the organization this
        > message was sent to.  Check the e-mail address, or contact the
      > recipient directly to find out the correct address.
        > < rly-xg03.mx.aol.com #5.1.1 SMTP; 550 geomarxxx IS NOT
ACCEPTING MAIL FROM THIS SENDER >

Does anybody have ANY ideas as to what is going on here?

Our client is really getting irritated - and I have been working day and
night, making sure DNS is setup right, our Reverse DNS is setup right
(with our new IP's), just anything else that I thought of...

Thanks in advance for any information offered,

Mike

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